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  1. #16
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    I am very much for it. I'm not afraid of death, but I am afraid of waiting to die. I don't want to be in a hospital bed in pain for days or months just waiting to die. Not only that but the thought of having to put my loved ones through that. It's my body and I think I should have the right to have a peaceful death.
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  2. #17
    I would agree with it if I saw a law with iron clad protection ( I know nothing is perfect, but as strong as they can make it) from corrupt doctors (hey doc, this hosp. care is cutting into our inheritance. We'll give you x if you say mom wanted to kill herself).

    Without that, there's too much of a chance for wrongful death.

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    I am definitely for it, and would support it in my area. I don't think I would ever use it myself, but everyone should have the right to choose.

    Thank you Wolf_Q!

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    I would agree with it if I saw a law with iron clad protection ( I know nothing is perfect, but as strong as they can make it) from corrupt doctors (hey doc, this hosp. care is cutting into our inheritance. We'll give you x if you say mom wanted to kill herself).

    Without that, there's too much of a chance for wrongful death.
    And yet....we put people to death (death penalty) without being iron clad sure they are guilty. (See the number of people exonerated by DNA!)

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    I want to be able to chose myself.
    On the other hand I don't think any human has the right to decide that another person can be killed. So if someone has written down that he wants not be kept alive in koma or whatever then it should be possible for that person to die.
    In the Netherlands and in Switzerland where assisted suicide is not punished there have been way too many problems to let you feel relaxed about it: people who suffered under untreated depressions and who were not physically sick at all, people in which case someone wanted to inherit, organizations who helped but took money away from the sick........

  6. #21
    ES, I'd be happy to debate the death penalty, but that's not the topic of the thread. Nice try, though.

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    Well, I think I'd be for it with strict guidelines. I've never been in a situation where it was something that came up, so it's kinda hard to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    I would agree with it if I saw a law with iron clad protection ( I know nothing is perfect, but as strong as they can make it) from corrupt doctors (hey doc, this hosp. care is cutting into our inheritance. We'll give you x if you say mom wanted to kill herself).

    Without that, there's too much of a chance for wrongful death.

    Isn't that an example of greedy relatives, rather than a corrupt doctor? Surprised you didn't somehow work sleazy lawyers into the picture there....Oh, wait, they would be the ones drafting the 'iron clad' law that someone out there would than want to sue under!

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    Some how I do have trouble beleiving you are a lawyer Johanna.
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    I'm not going to split hairs over the english language. And no, lawyers would not neccesarily write the required legislation. I think a man named Madison did some pretty fine legal writing without being a lawyer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    I'm not going to split hairs over the english language. And no, lawyers would not neccesarily write the required legislation. I think a man named Madison did some pretty fine legal writing without being a lawyer.
    You wouldn't be splitting hairs over the English language. You would be saying something along the lines of "Oh, you are right. I should have called the relatives corrupt, not the doctors".

    I don't think I know Madison...oh, wait, you mean Dolly Madison! Yeah, I like those alright....with milk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corinna
    Some how I do have trouble beleiving you are a lawyer Johanna.
    Believe it, woman, believe it. I have the student loan debt to prove it.

  13. #28
    A relative bribing a doctor would be corrupt. A doctor accepting the bribe would be corrupt.The relative could not accomplish the act without the doctor. Therefore, while the relative is the instigator, the doctor would be the actor. Both would be on trial for murder and conspiracy charges. The doctor performing the "assisted suicide" would in this case be committing a severe abuse of his/her position. It matters not who is more corrupt, but without a corrupt doctor it doesn't happen.


    BTW, the Madison I was referring to wrote the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human
    A relative bribing a doctor would be corrupt. A doctor accepting the bribe would be corrupt.The relative could not accomplish the act without the doctor. Therefore, while the relative is the instigator, the doctor would be the actor. Both would be on trial for murder and conspiracy charges. The doctor performing the "assisted suicide" would in this case be committing a severe abuse of his/her position. It matters not who is more corrupt, but without a corrupt doctor it doesn't happen.
    Yikes. What 'matters' is that you are rendering a legal opinion without license!

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    Cataholic, it's not a legal opinion, no one is paying me for advice, therefore no laws are being broken. It's an opinion.


    Unlike what happens in too many courtrooms, it's also common sense.

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