Hooch And Eli

[AllAmericanPUP]

the shelter here does not spay/neuter
they give you a $15 off coupon for spay/neuter but then it's up to you to get it done they dont even check up on the dogs to make sure they were fixed

[Flatcoatluver]

the shelter here does not spay/neuter
they give you a $15 off coupon for spay/neuter but then it's up to you to get it done they dont even check up on the dogs to make sure they were fixed

omg!!! That shelter is terrible!!! so that means then you don't really even neuter and spay!!!! you can just breed and start that painful cycle all over again!!!

[CagneyDog]

Something is fishy about this whole story

I don't think you should breed. You have absolutely NO reason to breed Hooch.

[Karen]

Every shelter is different, sadly, on their spay/neuter policy. Lots around this area make you sign an agreement to get it done, but how are they supposed to know whether or not you do? It is up to each person individually to take the responsibility.

[bark_some]

Eli's doing awesome after surgery, it has been a HECK OF A TIME trying to keep her out of the water, sahe almost got in! And I am having to keep her inside and put her on a leash when I take her outside until her scar heals. And they vet took from 9:30 am to 4:30 pm to spay her. And no, she wasn't pregnant, because she wasn't in season.

I know Hooch is an awesome example of the DDB because of his great standard for the breed, if you check the standard, you'll see.
He has had ALL the tests for the DDB when he was a pup, and he gets the tests *just in case* every 2 years.
He hasn't won any shows, but he has a great standard

[bark_some]

You'll see the pictures of the dogs as soon as I download them.

[CagneyDog]

I know Hooch is an awesome example of the DDB because of his great standard for the breed, if you check the standard, you'll see. He hasn't won any shows, but he has a great standard

Reading the standards online and comparing is hardly good enough. What are you thinking

[Flatcoatluver]

do you show hooch?

[AllAmericanPUP]

Eli's doing awesome after surgery, it has been a HECK OF A TIME trying to keep her out of the water, sahe almost got in! And I am having to keep her inside and put her on a leash when I take her outside until her scar heals. And they vet took from 9:30 am to 4:30 pm to spay her. And no, she wasn't pregnant, because she wasn't in season.

I know Hooch is an awesome example of the DDB because of his great standard for the breed, if you check the standard, you'll see.
He has had ALL the tests for the DDB when he was a pup, and he gets the tests *just in case* every 2 years.
He hasn't won any shows, but he has a great standard

and what exact tests are those? what are his OFA or pennhip scores? cerf? thyroid? patellas?

[bckrazy]

I don't see how you could judge him without ever showing Dogues, by simply looking at a VERY general on-line breed standard. Any purebred dog SHOULD fall within the standard... my little rescue BC falls into his standard, and he's FAR from being breedable. He's adorable but sadly he could not win any shows, ever.

The fact is that not just dogs who fit into their standard should be bred, the absolute BEST dogs who are PICTURE PERFECT examples of their breed should be bred, and only those dogs. That is the whole reason there ARE shows. If the only guidelines for breeding were "must conform to standard somewhat." then why even show dogs?? The entire reason for conformation showing is to prove breedability and soundness of the dog... your dog might look like a great example to you, but to a judge that's been judging Dogue's for decades he might be way off of breedable. That is why, even in a gorgeous purebred litter like Kara's, there are mostly "pet quality" puppies and usually at most one or two "show/breeding quality" puppies. Just being a purebred does NOT make him worthy of passing on his genes, as adorable as he is. Please do look into showing, don't just judge him on your own, and consider only studding him out to tested, show quality, sound females with experienced owners.

[bark_some]

I used to love this board But now I find it hard to understand people If you guys are just going to go on and on about what you THINK but isn't the truth, go on ahead. I don't care. See yah later PT.

[bark_some]

Actually, you know what, there are some people I like on this board and that are actually nice to me and understand me like Husky_mom and .sarah , but the people here, nah. I'm gonna stay, but I'm warning some people, whatever mean thing you say - I'm ignoring it. I don't have time to sort this out. Believe the truth or not.

[bckrazy]

I don't think anyone is being mean. We're just encouraging you to re-consider breeding your dog... because most of us are involved with rescue (and have rescue pups!), we've seen many dogs needlessly being put to sleep, and most of us very much believe that breeding should only be done the RIGHT way. What you told us is that your dog's breed is rare, and you think he looks good for a Dogue, so that makes him breedable. And many of us disagree with that. Please do lots of research, lots and lots and lots, before you make a decision. Bringing 5+ lives into this world is not something to be taken lightly.

meh. Sorry if you ignore me. I'm trying to help... I don't come on here and post about how you can prove your dog's breedability for my own health.

[bark_some]

Ok

[Vela]

Oh hey, guess what, you were busted out on the other thread and those aren't your "girlfriend's" dogs, they belong to people in two different states and you are full of it so get lost=) Hooch probably isn't really your dog either and you don't know the first thing about breeding testing because as you claim they were done on him as a puppy, they can't be because hips etc can't be correctly done until around 18-24 months. You've been caught being a liar so why keep pretending, you are busted. Buh bye.