Why Won't Bush Speak To Her?

[RICHARD]

I MAY have some facts wrong but here goes....

Her son died in '03.

A very courageous man, I believe he was a chaplain and he reenlisted to return to Iraq.


BECAUSE HE BELIEVED IN THE CAUSE.


Soon after he was killed, Mommie Dearest flipped out (who wouldn't?) left her husband with three kids to raise.

Her litttle stunt is being backed by who else? Mikey Moore and some Dem dot org group.

Apparently her son was the only one killed in Iraq and she got a few minutes with the president. Sad.....


I am really tired of the media turning people into MEDIA WHORES.

They really after the women who have lost their loved ones..

Sharon Rocha, The Dame Holloway, Denise Brown and now this woman...

Michael Moore gave the Farenheit 9/11 mom her fifteen minutes and where is she now?

Gracing the bargain shelves of the local video stores. And Moore never gave a Cat's Arse about her after....

To this day I never heard anything about any donations to any families who suffered a loss.....A HOLE.


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If she wants time with the president, I'd be more than happy to buy her a watch with GWB's pic on the face...


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But to try to make amends to everyone here....

I do feel for this woman....her son went off to war....

I guess there is more guilt involved when you sign your daughter's trip slip for so she can experience a little debauchery in Aruba......



Where is Jennifer Wilbanks when we need her??

Koo KOO Ka Choo, our nation turns it's lonely eyes to you!!

[Pam]

Originally posted by RICHARD


I am really tired of the media turning people into MEDIA WHORES.

Sad but true. I wonder what her son would think of all of this mess.

I am not minimizing her pain, but the fact of the matter is that her son was an enlisted soldier. He knew the risks and chose his path. Please, I am in no way even slightly suggesting that he deserved his fate. My hubby was in the Air Force during Viet Nam. He knew the risks and enlisted. My brother was in the Air Force during the Korean War. He knew the risks and enlisted. I have cousins who are career Navy men. When you enlist in the military, no matter who the President is or the condition of the world at the time of your enlistment, you have to know that this is dangerous business. You have stepped out and pledged to serve and made that commitment.

This is different than what was happening during Viet Nam where kids just out of high school were being drafted and swept into the Army, sent to a foreign land and killed even before the ink was dry on their diplomas. Yes war is horrific....NO DOUBT ABOUT IT! But I do believe that when you enlist you have weighed the costs and gone ahead accepting what may come. That said, my heart aches for this woman. I just wish she could do her grieving in a way that would be more honorable to his memory. JMHO again.

[RICHARD]

This is sad..

Apparently Ms Sheehan and her band of merry protestors are putting up crosses, in a memorial type setting, with the names of other soldiers that died during this war.

There are reports that some of their parents have made to trip to TX to remove those crosses from thise "memorial".


Why not use the pictures of the coffins, that the press was fighting to have released, coming back into Dover..

Wouldn't that make more of an impact?

[Edwina's Secretary]

I, for one, hope he never does meet with her! If he mets with her, that would be that. But, as he, again, takes the coward's route, she is able to continue to ask the question others are thinking but are afraid to ask.

We have a puppy dog media that fails to ask Bush the hard questions about Iraq (or much of anything else!) and a far right power group that shouts "Unpatriotic" at anyone who dares to question. (I saw some of the Fox Network on my loooonnngg airline flight this week. Their favorite slur....at anyone who disagreed...."unpatriotic!")

So she has people behind her? Can you say "Karl Rove"...."Dick Cheney"?

Now...what is a media whore? Is that someone who uses the media to advance a position? Like say..... outing a intelligence worker for personal/political reasons?

And she and her husband broke up....well there's a reason she should shut up! She changed her opinion....unacceptable!

My only quibble with her is that the news that came out this week....... the government announced that it is doubtful that we will be able to achieve most of the objectives we had established in Iraq...... got lost in the liberal press.

I wonder if the media whore who released that did it in "The Dog Days of Summer" for a reason??

And I agree Richard, the coffins of the sacrifical young men and women would be powerful.....unfortunately, Bush's handlers won't let them be seen in the media. That isn't censorship is it?

[Samantha Puppy]

Originally posted by Tubby & Peanut's Mom
Maybe I'm seeing things differently here, but I don't see why he should talk to her. He spoke with her when her son first died - like he supposedly does to all the families that loose a son or daughter in the war.

BINGO!!!!

She had her turn and was pleased with her meeting with him until she got a bug up her @$$ and started getting in with all these fanatical far left-wing nut groups.

[Edwina's Secretary]

If people who oppose the Iraq War are "Fanatical far left-wing nuts" does that make people who support the war Fanatical far right-wing nuts"?????????

Just curious...

[caseysmom]

I wish we could not have the name calling when we don't have the same view as you we are not left wing nuts geez grow up.

[Samantha Puppy]

Excuse me, did I say any of YOU were fanatical left-wing nuts? No. The groups that Sheehan is now associated with are.

And yes, there are fanatical far right-wing nut job groups out there that support the war. I was not calling anyone here names, so I'd appreciate it if people didn't try to sensor a rather benign post to begin with.

Thanks.

[beeniesmom]

Originally posted by catland
Why? maybe because its not an election year?

true! why should he care anyway....
why should he care about anything...

[lizbud]

Originally posted by RICHARD

I MAY have some facts wrong but here goes....

It is that kind of thinking (or non thinking) that got us all into
this mess. It' almost sounds like something George might have
said himself.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Sorry SP....but there is nothing benign about the phrase ....Fanatical left-wing nut....

Rather inflamatory in fact.

And I don't knowabout anyone sensoring anything but if you mean censoring....that means not allowing something to be printed or spoken about.

You are entitled to your opinion. I fail to see censorship. Criticism...yes....censorship (or sensorship), no.

[Samantha Puppy]

I see it differently. The only way my comment could be taken in an inflamatory nature is if I called someone here a fanatic far left wing nut, which I did not. I'm saving that label for the groups with which this woman is now associated. It would also be inflamatory if I said the only fanatics were those opposed to this war, but I did not, and stated that there are, in fact, groups just as fanatic on the opposite end of the spectrum who do support the war.

At any rate, I'm not singling out left-wing nuts as the only ones of their kind. That is just who this woman is associating herself with now. If she were on the complete opposite end of the deal and supported the war and was demanding to see President Bush, I'd say she'd fallen in with fanatic far right-wingers.

My claim of a 'benign' comment came from me not attacking anyone here - not attacking anyone really. I didn't say that the fanatical left wing nuts were all evil and should go to Hell. I merely put a label on a group of people who seem to be as fanatical in their cause as say, PETA is for animal rights.

[DJFyrewolf36]

T & P...I agree with you yet again. I just think that perhaps if our intentions were clear from the OUTSET that we wouldn't be having this discussion now. IMO it wasn't Americas place to tear down the Iraqi government but now that we are imbeded, we owe it to the people whose lives we've disrupted to at least attempt to fix the problem and to help them rebuild.

This situation is very different from Vietnam. People are voulenteering service knowing full well they could be injured or killed. At least they aren't pulling kids from high school and throwing them to the wolves.

This woman's son voulenteered so obviously he must have supported the cause or he wouldn't have gone. I'd hate to think that we have men and women voulenteering to fight for something they don't support. At first I was sympathetic, but now it seems as if she is just gunning for 15 minutes of fame instead of actually trying to get something usefull done.

Another extreme political tactic...and we arent even close to an election year!

[Tubby & Peanut's Mom]

Saw a bumper sticker yesterday

One learned man is harder on the devil than a thousand ignorant worshippers.

Seems to be an Islamic saying as when I did a google search, it came up with a bunch of islamic sites, but it is so true in so many aspects of society - not just the religious aspect.

At the risk of someone tracking my internet usage, I clicked on one of the sites that came up when I googled this. Seems this Muhammed guy is/was pretty smart.

Islam: On Education
Had'ith

An hour's contemplation is better than a year's adoration...To spend more time in learning is better than spending more time in praying; the support of religion is abstinence. It is better to teach knowledge one hour in the night than to pray the whole night...One learned man is harder on the devil than a thousand ignorant worshippers...To listen to the words of the learned, and to instill into others the lessons of science, is better than religious exercises...The ink of the scholar is more holy than the blood of the martyr...The acquisition of knowledge is a duty incumbent on every Muslim, male and female...Who are the learned? They who practice what they know.

Muhammad

Ok, this seems to be more religious based than I wanted this post to be, but the "left wing fanatics" comment got me thinking about fanatics in general, and this seemed appropriate. oh, oh, better watch what I say or I'll be labeled as a terrorist pretty soon, so back to work for me now.

[DJFyrewolf36]

Wise words.