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  1. #16
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    Originally posted by K9soul



    I have issue with that "middle-aged" shepherd example. Dogs like that CAN be rehabilitated with lots of time and love. I also found a post on a vegan board by a non-anonymous person that while he agrees with a lot of PETA's crusades, he worked at PETA for six months and saw (what he perceived to be) healthy animals being euthanized.


    Are there unnecessary euthanizations, when more could be done to prevent it? I believe so. I believe PETA would opt for the needle rather than put an animal through what they would consider a traumatic, drawn out rehabilitation.


    I also have a problem with the fact that dogs with behavior
    issues can't be helped individually. Dogs who have been starved
    beaten or ignored & neglected all their lives cannot be turned into
    model adoptable dogs overnight, if ever. The sheer number of
    dogs without homes is far too great to even attempt rehabitation.

    I hate it when I watch a show on Animal Planet by SPCA in some
    city & they bring in a dog that is 20+ lbs. underweight(starved)
    and put him to a test with a food bowl.Most dogs are set up to fail
    the "food aggression" test. It could be a perfect dog in every other respect, but if it doesn't let someone mess with his food,
    he's cut from the list of adoptable dogs. That's so wrong.
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    I can't argue with true members of PETA, the only words they'll take into consideration are PETA's own words, and it even seems they turn a blind eye to some of those.

    I can take a look at PETA's letter, a look a the opposition's claim, and understand the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Looking at the reports, it appears the bulk of the numbers are cats (well over 1000 cats euthanized per year). Based on PETA's claim that they euthanize ferals (rather than TNR), I'm guessing a great many of the thousands are feral cats.

    "Unadoptable" is all a matter of perception. I'm sure by their standard, Tommy would have been unadoptable if he had arrived at their facility. He most definitely would have cowered in the back corner and peed on himself every time a human approached. But put him in a house and with a bit of love and patience he became a wonderful companion.

    The sheer number of
    dogs without homes is far too great to even attempt rehabitation
    I disagree. There are sanctuaries, foster homes, rescues, etc., devoted to that very thing. PETA could afford to do more in that area, but they prefer to put their money into their anti-meat campaigns.

    That letter plays on emotions and mental images without really explaining much in my opinion. For all I know, they are claiming a dog with a runny nose is "extremely sick and better to put it down than subject it to further trauma." Or it may not be that way at all. The thing is, that is put out by PETA so of course they are going to put the best light possible on it. Blindly believing everything they say word for word would be no better than blindly believing what CFF says word for word. People were skeptical about the numbers at all, but I guess we can all realize that whatever the circumstances, the numbers were true.

    edited to say:
    Liz, I agree about the hand/food test. That is very sad. Because a dog may nip at some strange plastic hand coming into its bowl should not decide whether it lives or dies
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    Liz, I agree about the hand/food test. That is very sad. Because a dog may nip at some strange plastic hand coming into its bowl should not decide whether it lives or dies
    I definetely agree with that! I would "bite" a plastic hand if it was comming towards my food! Also the little doll babies, of course the dog is going to think that it is a toy or something! It's not fair to a dog with all of these different tests.

    I have been very annoyed with PETA for a long time. Finally, some truth came from "behind the scenes" I can believe every thing about the euthanizing! Don't get me wrong, not ALL people from PETA are out to get animals, some are actuelly nice, but some are, er......CRAZY!!!

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    GRRRR! That letter from PETA made me so mad! Feral cats too wild to find a home? Alley Cat Allies is working toward the time when TNR and other nonlethal control measures for managing outdoor cat populations are accepted everywhere. - From www.alleycat.org GRRR! GRRR! Why not neuter them and then allow them to live their lives in simple peace without the burden of overpopulation?????
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    Oh, and another thing - I'm really getting on my soapbox now, aren't it? - when my sister moved from Richmond, she took her three cats she'd adopted from the shelter to Beattyville with her. She rented a place and by the time she bought a house, her cat family had enlarged to eight - no litters, only ferals and strays that had become friendly enough to be housepets. A few like Oliver and Doppie tamed up almost immediately; others like Muffin and Mudpie took lots of love, food, and patience but they realized how great it was to have a furrever home. And on top of that, Julia has to take extra special care of Mudpie. He's getting better now but she used to have help with him with lots of normal activies; she had to carry him to the litterbox among other things. Mudpie is a sweet and sensitive cat and I can't imagine how horrible it would have been for him to be put to sleep just because he needed a little extra care.

    I know my sister is only one person and can't take in every stray and special needs animal in the world. I know PETA doesn't have the money to just go out and feed every creature...but there are people like Julia and many, many of you on Pettalk. People foster kitties and puppies and other animals all the time. Many of you are willing to go that extra mile and carry the Mudpies to their litterboxes....

    ....I apologize for going off on this rant because I know that PETA has some wonderful members; not everyone who is a member of PETA is an extremist....I just hate to see little critters like Mudpie not being giving the chance to live because people don't want to take the time and effort they need.

    (BTW, for those of you who saw Mudpie's picture with the horrible sore, I just want to say he's got peach fuzz covering it now! All that hair will be back soon. He can also go to the litterbox and jump on his own again. He's on the road to recovery!)
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