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  1. #16
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    Originally posted by Tubby & Peanut's Mom
    Lisa, I cross posted this to Dog General. Maybe someone there has some ideas that will help.
    Thanks Debbie
    Kevin's contacting the Police and I'm going to contact the local news stations. What are they waiting for, it to happen to a child before anything is done? These owners are irresponsible and these dogs should be put in homes where they're taken care of properly!
    Trap-Neuter-Return (TNR) is a full management plan in which stray and feral cats already living outdoors in cities, towns, and rural areas are humanely trapped, then evaluated, vaccinated, and sterilized by veterinarians. Kittens and tame cats are adopted into good homes. Healthy adult cats too wild to be adopted are returned to their familiar habitat under the lifelong care of volunteers

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    Originally posted by Tubby & Peanut's Mom
    Lisa, yes, contact animal control, the media and whoever else you think can help! If you have email addresses or anyone that we can write to also, please let us know. I'm busy at work today also, but I'll see if I can do some research as to who we can contact to help. This is outrageous and those dogs NEVER should have been returned....again!

    RIP sweet Java. Your death will not be in vain!
    I completely agree!! I just can't believe the dogs were returned. Who are these worthless people?? I'm following these threads and it's just making me so angry that stuff like this is basically "allowed" to happen. These so called owners don't seem to care...so why should they have dogs in the first place? Are they not feeding these dogs? It just seems strange to me that they have killed so many animals...and have gotten away with it. Do you have local animal shelters and other animal related organizations that could help back you up in terms of filing complaints and contacting the media?
    Hmmm...is there someone who could "kidnap" these dogs and take them far far away from these stupid owners??...


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    poor precious Java people are so stupid sometimes especially in this situation! Rip sweetie
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    I've just contacted (through e-mail) the Mayor, Vice Mayor, and head of Parks & Recreation! I will see if I get any response.

    As far as are they not feeding, I don't believe it's a hunger issue because they're just mauling and not eating. They're killing for the sport of it!
    Trap-Neuter-Return (TNR) is a full management plan in which stray and feral cats already living outdoors in cities, towns, and rural areas are humanely trapped, then evaluated, vaccinated, and sterilized by veterinarians. Kittens and tame cats are adopted into good homes. Healthy adult cats too wild to be adopted are returned to their familiar habitat under the lifelong care of volunteers

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    OMG Lisa, I can't believe this is still going on. Poor, poor sweet babies. This is so heartbreaking.

    I pray that something is done immediately, so no other animal is killed.

    (((((HUGS))))) to you Lisa, as I know this must be so devastating to you. I am crying with you.

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    They aren't killing for sport, they are killing because they are dogs and they are allowed to. What breed are these dogs? Many breeds have a very strong prey drive and any thing smaller then them is prey. Huskies are often like that. My dogs are living proof that in the right home, cats and high prey drive dogs can peacefully co-exsist. These dogs are not at fault, they are just being dogs--Their owners are clearly idiots who don't deserve to have dogs(or any other living being) !! In the right home, with the right set-up, this behavior could be controlled and these dogs could be lovely companions. (I'm assuming there aren't other issues with them!)

    The dogs need to be removed from the area asap before they cause anymore heartache and death. What is happening to your ferals is truly tragic!

    Call everyone you can think of--go above your local government level if you have to...Call your state representative. Call every radio station, newspaper, ect. Got any local internet boards? Post on them! Call every law enforcement agency you have locally.

    Call Best Friends. They have a great information network and might be able to offer some suggestions.

    Be very careful if you find a way to have the dogs disappear--it will be pretty obvious who did it and you don't want to cause even more problems for your ferals or yourselves!

    Has anyone talked to the owners? Maybe they would surrender the dogs to a rescue? Are there children in the home? If there are, call child protection services. (that can be done anonymously--i used to be a child protection worker)

    Good luck. I hope this can be resolved before any more ferals suffer.
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    Originally posted by Glacier
    They aren't killing for sport, they are killing because they are dogs and they are allowed to. What breed are these dogs? Many breeds have a very strong prey drive and any thing smaller then them is prey. Huskies are often like that. My dogs are living proof that in the right home, cats and high prey drive dogs can peacefully co-exsist. These dogs are not at fault, they are just being dogs--Their owners are clearly idiots who don't deserve to have dogs(or any other living being) !! In the right home, with the right set-up, this behavior could be controlled and these dogs could be lovely companions. (I'm assuming there aren't other issues with them!)

    The dogs need to be removed from the area asap before they cause anymore heartache and death. What is happening to your ferals is truly tragic!

    Call everyone you can think of--go above your local government level if you have to...Call your state representative. Call every radio station, newspaper, ect. Got any local internet boards? Post on them! Call every law enforcement agency you have locally.

    Call Best Friends. They have a great information network and might be able to offer some suggestions.

    Be very careful if you find a way to have the dogs disappear--it will be pretty obvious who did it and you don't want to cause even more problems for your ferals or yourselves!

    Has anyone talked to the owners? Maybe they would surrender the dogs to a rescue? Are there children in the home? If there are, call child protection services. (that can be done anonymously--i used to be a child protection worker)

    Good luck. I hope this can be resolved before any more ferals suffer.
    Believe me, I'm not blaming the dogs..it's the owners!! Yes, the owners have been cited and fined, but it still continues. I just got an e-mail back from the Vice-Mayor who is going to look into this situation. We're contacting the News Media right now! I will NOT stop until this is taken care of.
    Trap-Neuter-Return (TNR) is a full management plan in which stray and feral cats already living outdoors in cities, towns, and rural areas are humanely trapped, then evaluated, vaccinated, and sterilized by veterinarians. Kittens and tame cats are adopted into good homes. Healthy adult cats too wild to be adopted are returned to their familiar habitat under the lifelong care of volunteers

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    K&L,

    Call the media. Newspapers, tv stations, whatever it takes. The city HATES negative publicity. I'm so sorry to hear about Java. He was such a beautiful cat!

    Please DO NOT stop until this is dealt with!!

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    Lisa-

    Doesn't Sheriff Joe have some sort of Animal thing going on at his jail? I'm sure his office might be interested in this activity.

    If I were you & Kevin I would contact every and any one that has to do with animals in both Phoenix & Glendale.

    Good luck....will be watching the news about you tonight!


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    I'm so sorry to hear this horrible news My heart goes out to you.
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    Originally posted by Catsnclay
    Lisa-

    Doesn't Sheriff Joe have some sort of Animal thing going on at his jail? I'm sure his office might be interested in this activity.

    If I were you & Kevin I would contact every and any one that has to do with animals in both Phoenix & Glendale.

    Good luck....will be watching the news about you tonight!


    RIP Java and the rest.
    I've looked up a way to contact Sheriff Joe, but there's no way to e-mail him. We've contacted channels 3, 5, & 12.
    Trap-Neuter-Return (TNR) is a full management plan in which stray and feral cats already living outdoors in cities, towns, and rural areas are humanely trapped, then evaluated, vaccinated, and sterilized by veterinarians. Kittens and tame cats are adopted into good homes. Healthy adult cats too wild to be adopted are returned to their familiar habitat under the lifelong care of volunteers

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    If these cats had been someone's pets, you know those dogs would not have been returned. This is absolutely ridiculous and those people deserve jail time for 1) not controlling their dogs 2) letting this happen IN THE FIRST PLACE. We're talking about the killing of innocent animals and more needs to be done to protect their lives. ARGH!

    Legislation for things like this needs to be stricter. Abusing animals should no longer be a misdemeanor--it should be a felony.
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    The Vice-Mayor and one of the News Stations contacted us. We'll see what happens!!!!

    I feel bad for the dogs and don't want any harm to come to them, but I want them controlled and OUT OF THE PARK!!

    I guess when the owners were confronted the owner insisted they had not been outside. According to one official report, because the owner was becoming agitated, the police told the park rangers (and animal control) to leave. Nothing was done by the authorities to prevent the dogs from again wandering back over to the park. According to park rangers, the matter must go to the courts before anything meaningful can be done to actively prevent the dogs from roaming.

    We're going to make this happen sooner!
    Trap-Neuter-Return (TNR) is a full management plan in which stray and feral cats already living outdoors in cities, towns, and rural areas are humanely trapped, then evaluated, vaccinated, and sterilized by veterinarians. Kittens and tame cats are adopted into good homes. Healthy adult cats too wild to be adopted are returned to their familiar habitat under the lifelong care of volunteers

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    All right, Lisa! Way to go to get some attention drawn to this! Sounds like you've got a real good start on it, but don't let up on the others. The more publicity the better.

    And awww....the poor owner was becoming agitated....poor dear, how could those mean animal control and park rangers harrass im so.... Give me a break!
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    Originally posted by Tubby & Peanut's Mom
    All right, Lisa! Way to go to get some attention drawn to this! Sounds like you've got a real good start on it, but don't let up on the others. The more publicity the better.

    And awww....the poor owner was becoming agitated....poor dear, how could those mean animal control and park rangers harrass im so.... Give me a break!
    Goes to show what kind of owner he really is, doesn't it. Java will NOT die in vain, nor any of the others. I will not let up until these dogs are removed from the owners and no threat to anyone or anything in the park again!

    And the worse I haven't told, some of the animals did not die but were mauled and had to be put down. I'm just so sick, so sick.
    Trap-Neuter-Return (TNR) is a full management plan in which stray and feral cats already living outdoors in cities, towns, and rural areas are humanely trapped, then evaluated, vaccinated, and sterilized by veterinarians. Kittens and tame cats are adopted into good homes. Healthy adult cats too wild to be adopted are returned to their familiar habitat under the lifelong care of volunteers

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