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  1. #16
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    Originally posted by Mandy1
    there would be no dogs to rescue

    And i'd LOVE to see that happen.

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    I personaly don't think I would even buy from a breeder.
    I see no reason to, when no matter what breed you are looking for, it can be found in a shelter somewhere.

    All back yard breeders need to all be stopped!
    They are sick sick people
    ~Angie, Sierra & Buddy
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    I have no problems with going to a responsible breeder. If the breeder is responsible, they will take back the dog at any time if the owners decide they don't want it anymore. A good breeder should recognize that a dog is for life, and they are fully responsible for where the dogs end up.

    Rescuing will always be my first choice though. Whenever someone asks me where to look for a dog, I always recommend the shelter first.

    Kai [Sheltie], Kaedyn [Sheltie], Keeva [Malinois], Kwik [Malinois]

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    I first want to say some back yard breeders are more resposible than big time show breeders 2 examlpes. My dad only bred when our waiting list was over what we knew our girls could produce and we knew our puppy parents would be.(freinds and relitives) None of our dogs in 15years ended in a shelter (we found a new home for the 1 pup we ever had to have returned Cancer intered the owner had to go to a nursing home a single guy. I ended up keepinng the dog and showing it. Pretty good record for 25 pups all but 2 were fixed by 1 year old no other litters. The 2 unfixed were ones we kept.
    The second example is Merlins breeder. She had a list before breeding her dog always had small litters 5-6 pups . Bred to the same male (she was the only female they mated him with)so no sexual diseases. Before breeding K would beef up calcium and vitamins to the female( Neslie) Then after pups and when they were eating they got supplemnted too. She did not wean until Neslie did or at 10 weeks. She didn't do shots but she went above what I had for standards for what I was looking for (thats why it took 4 years to get a puppy for me LOOOONNNGGG wait) Of course after that wait I choose the only one she has ever had with a medical Problem.(he has an irregular heart beat). Wich made K think it was time to retire Nestlie so she and Merlins dad (owned by someone else) were both fixed. I don't know if she kept any one to replace her but I doubt it.
    Most breeders I have know (when I was activly showing ) also ran a passive rescues (they whould get calls for help finding homes for their breed)all would take back thier own dogs in a flash.

  5. #20
    I personally have to say I am all for responsible breeders, because I am one. Backyard breeders make me sick!!

    All my PET puppies are sold on Spay/Neuter contracts, and I follow up on each puppy. My application to get a puppy alone is 5 pages long. I do not sell my SHOW dogs for breeding purposes only, they must also be shown in an AKC event and attempt to get a title. None of my females are bred past 5.5 years old, and ALL my dogs are not bred until they have gotten all health clearances (Hip, Elbow, Heart, Eye & Thyroid.) And I make the puppy buyer sign an agreement that if they can no longer keep the puppy, I will have the first option to take it back, or find a new home for it.

    I also only have about 2 litters a year, its alot of work finding good homes and raising puppies!

    There is a horrible backyard breeder in my town, and I make sure that ANYONE asking for puppies when I don't have any knows about them and how horrible they are!

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    that's how a breeder should be sunkissed

    thanks k9krazee for the signature!

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    posted by SunKissedGoldens: All my PET puppies are sold on Spay/Neuter contracts, and I follow up on each puppy.and ALL my dogs are not bred until they have gotten all health clearances (Hip, Elbow, Heart, Eye & Thyroid.)
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


    I commend you on being a responsible breeder.
    Reputable breeders have my vote.
    And thumbs down to the ones that are not.

    P.S. just because a dog has akc papers/and comes
    from a show home does not make that breeder
    reputable.

    I saved this from an AKita web site:

    If you scroll down to "How to Choose a Breeder."
    I think the links listed will answer
    many questions on how to look for a good breeder.

    http://www.shoboakitas.com/breederpuppynetwork.html
    Last edited by KYS; 12-22-2004 at 09:38 PM.


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    I Love responsible breeders! They're the ones who keep the breed alive and continue the hundreds/thousands of years of hardwork. Backyard breeders and puppy millers and greeders who sell their puppies with dollar signs in their eyes---THOSE people are the ones who undo all the hundreds/thousands of years of hardwork. I have zero tolerance for BYBs. IMO, even a "good" BYB is scum between a reputable breeder's toes.

    Responsible breeders do not breed for money. In fact, they lose more than they gain. Their dogs are their lives. If a puppy does not fit, no matter how old, the breeder will take it back. So, really, the responsible breeder is not contributing to the problem. Also, the breeders I know rarely, if ever, breed. Why? They breed to improve their stock. This results in a litter every other year or so. Many do breed for show...but then, again, a dog show is just evaluating breeding stock...

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    I have a slight issue with some breeders (and yes I am going to keep this civil )

    I have no moral issue with responsible breeding, but my idea of responsible breeding is breeding for temperment and health rather than looks for showing. Through the years, some breeds have been bred for looks that have had a detremental impact on the health of breeds. Pugs have been bred to have shorter noses causing more respiratory problems, poms have been bred to be smaller causing joint problems, GSD's and Great Danes have been breed to be bigger causing hip problems, some breeds have been bred to be white causing deafness, etc.

    And with a national average of 50% euthanisia rate for animals because there are not enough homes, I will always get my animals from rescue or shelters. That being said, however, I would never fault anyone who made the decision to purchase a particular breed from a reputable breeder.

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