Lupi Harness

[cali]

if it works use it lol a prong would never work with misty(border collie) because she is so focased on pulled that could not care less about pain, I use a halti for her, it works as best as anything is going to lol because when she is in focas mode she will even pull in a haltie, she is just so intensly focased on pulling that she wont pay attention for anything. she wont even look at a peice of liver for petes sake! lol even with general corrections around the house, neither negitive nor positive reinformant will work for her, however if I show her my teeth.. lol she stops immedietly! that is the only thing that works for her. your dog is a border collie to I believe so you gotta choose what works, because most BCs are so focased that you could shock them on high(with a shock collar) and they would not even flinch, so I am not sure what good a prong collar would do with these dogs lol like I said when it comes to BCs if you find something that wokrs, use it lol

[K9soul]

I recently resorted to a prong collar for Tommy for a couple reasons. I had been using a gentle leader, but he absolutely hates having it on his face. Now he didn't fight it, but the whole time on the walks, his tail was tucked and he was miserable. As soon as the halter came off, he was fine. I thought he'd eventually get used to it, but he just didn't, it made him miserable, he trembled and looked beaten when I was about to put it on him.

I didn't really want to do a slip collar because he is already so jumpy and easily startled, I felt like popping a collar would intensify that, especially since he usually only really pulls when something has him nervous.

As much as I always thought I'd never want to use a prong collar, it has ended up being ideal for Tommy, because he doesn't mind wearing it, and I don't have to pop or startle him if he pulls, it just pinches a bit and so now he just doesn't pull for the most part. He was actually already doing really well with not pulling except when something made him nervous, and then he yanked my arm pretty hard. He is a strong dog, and due to the fact I must walk on some streets with regular traffic, I didn't want to ever have the chance of him getting startled and yanking the leash out of my hands. He seems much happier and more relaxed on walks since I stopped using the gentle leader.

[ChrisH]

Cazi, I have used a Lupi on Bob and it worked really well and no, it has not caused any damage to him at all.

I have used a number of head collars in an effort to stop his pulling too and they work very well, especially this one.

But, as you may be able to tell ...

... he doesn't like it much!

So, if I am just taking him on the field, or somewhere there are not too many people/dogs, I use a harness that is very similar to the Lupi and it works really well too.
Here it is modeled by a Dalmation.

Bob doesn't mind it at all, we even have a 'one paw, two paw' routine worked out for getting him out of it without unhooking.

Chris

[Tollers-n-Dobes]

Originally posted by cali
if it works use it lol a prong would never work with misty(border collie) because she is so focased on pulled that could not care less about pain, I use a halti for her, it works as best as anything is going to lol because when she is in focas mode she will even pull in a haltie, she is just so intensly focased on pulling that she wont pay attention for anything.

Tango is the exact same way! I have to use a halti on her too and usually she pulls a little in that also.

[Tonya]

Originally posted by cali
if it works use it lol a prong would never work with misty(border collie) because she is so focased on pulled that could not care less about pain, I use a halti for her, it works as best as anything is going to lol because when she is in focas mode she will even pull in a haltie, she is just so intensly focased on pulling that she wont pay attention for anything. she wont even look at a peice of liver for petes sake! lol even with general corrections around the house, neither negitive nor positive reinformant will work for her, however if I show her my teeth.. lol she stops immedietly! that is the only thing that works for her. your dog is a border collie to I believe so you gotta choose what works, because most BCs are so focased that you could shock them on high(with a shock collar) and they would not even flinch, so I am not sure what good a prong collar would do with these dogs lol like I said when it comes to BCs if you find something that wokrs, use it lol

Yeah, I think most cattle dogs have to much energy and determination to feel pain. Dusty's Australian Shephard comes out in him sometimes, and nothing can stop him.

[Amos]

Our puppies have started to get in the habit of pulling because they are not used to having a collar or leash on all day(we have a fenced in backyard, so they don't wear them) so when we go to put them on their leashes they kinda throw a hissy fit. My husband read in a book to make your dog leash friendly you have to "rescue" them from it first so they know you are not trying to hurt them by putting it on them. I'll try to explain the best I can. First you put them on their leash and then tie them to a pole kinda close to the pole and walk about 10 feet away from them. They pulled and tugged and wrestled with it for a couple of minutes and then sat down. when they sit down it means they are excepting the fact that they can't go anywhere. then you go over and "rescue them from that mean 'ol pole and they seem to just walk right next to you like you are their hero. we do this before walks and it has cut the pulling down to a minimum (only when they find a "spot" to go potty). We haven't had to do it for the last week and the book said you shouldn't have to once they have learned this. It also said not to use those prong collars, but on Killian (deceased) it worked okay, I just couldn't bear to put it on him. Has anyone ever put one on to see how bad it hurts ???? I did and let me just say OWIE!!!

[cloverfdx]

Our Penny has both the Lupi harness and the harness the Dalmation was modelling and the little uh...darling still pulls, she is one stubborn Terrier .

I have also used the Lupi (It fits both Penny JRT and Elvis Border Collie) on Elvis and it has helped a little in the pulling Mum around problem, i am using a Halti on him at the moment and it too has not completly stopped the pulling but it helps.

I put Clovers Halti on Penny as a harness tonight at the park but she hates it.

[wolfsoul]

The only thing that works for Timber and worked for Leather was the prong collar. Timber does okay with her harness (I think it's like the Lupi one -- it tightens around her body when she pulls), but it had no where near the affect of the prong collar. Choke chains and nylon chokes did nothing, and the Halti was HORRIBLE on both of them. Both Timber and Leather could get a halti off so easily. They just pull backwards and the strap slips over the head and the Halti will slip right off.