People Creating New Breeds Grrrr!

[rusticnature]

I guess it is, but it's just hard to feel that youre making the right desicion.

By the way, how dyou include a picture in a signature? I'm new here.

[lizzielou742]

Originally posted by lute
i totally understand! i don't get how people can do that!

i have seen a LONG list of *breeds* like this.
labradoodle (lab/poodle)
puggle (pug/beagle)
maltipoo (maltese/poodle)
bichpoo (bichon/poodle)
boxerdoodle (boxer/poodle)
cairnoodle (cairn terrier/poodle)
chipoo (chihuahua/poodle)
cockapoo (cockerspaniel/poodle)
daisy dog (bichon/poodle/shih tzu)
doodleman pinscher (doberman/poodle)
english boodle (english bulldog/poodle)
lhasapoo (lhasa apso/poodle)
papoo (papillon/poodle)
pekepoo (pekingese/poodle)
pomapoo (pomerainian/poodle)
pugapoo (pug/poodle)
schnoodle (schnauzer/poodle)
shepadoodle (german shep/poodle)
weimerdoodle (weimaraner/poodle)
yorkiepoo (yorkshire terrier/poodle)


i'm sure there are more. these are just the few that i know of.

Wow, those poodles sure are popular dogs!!

[wolfsoul]

Originally posted by wolfie

Aren't there purebreds in shelters too? Shouldn't it be outrageous that people breed purebreds, and then charge close to $1000 for puppies? I don't understand the double standard for breeders of mixes vs. purebreds.

And isn't it entirely possible that a breeder of mixes could be very responsible? Health test all their pups, show them in obedience ect, temperament test them, have a spay/neuter contract with buyers, screen homes, ect ect. If this person was breeding purebreds people would say they were responsible, but if they're breeding mixes they aren't?

I don't think we are bashing mutt breeders in particular -- but backyard breeders. Yes, we have purebreds in the shelter, but they come from backyard breeders (any reputable breeder would have a contract saying that if the person must give up the dog, it goes straight back to the breeder). I don't think that charging $1000 is a bad thing when a reputable breeder does it -- they spent thousands and thousands of dollars for their dogs to be in top condition to breed, and even at that price it's unlikely that they will make a profit.

I don't believe there is such thing as a responsible mutt breeder, because a reputable breeder only breeds for the better of the breed --- when breeding mutts, that's impossible because it isn't a specific breed -- it's a mixed breed, and who knows which traits from either parent it carries? Which traits would you want to improve and better in the course of breeding? For what purpose would this dog be bred, and with both parents being different breeds, will it serve the purpose well enough? Are both the breeds alike enough that the person getting the dog will know what to expect, or will it have an undetermined personality, coat, energy level, etc? Someone not knowing what they are getting and then getting stuck with something they didn't want is a dangerous outcome -- that just means more dogs in shelters.

Personally I think we should stick with the breeds we've got, and that there should be a lisence to breed. I think that anyone not fitting the qualifications of a reputable breeder should not be allowed to breed by law.

I recently talked with someone who had bought a shi-pom from a pet shop. Probably came from a puppy mill. Among the dogs in the pet shops here in Kelowna, poodle mixes are most common. That's because Kelowna is the retirement city of Canada -- lots of seniors want to live here, and they all like small dogs, especially poodles and poodle mixes. And I've also heard that puppy mills like to breed poodle mixes, because breeding purebred poodles is harder -- you get less puppies, and more birthing troubles. They say that if you breed a larger breed, liek a shi tzu, with a male poodle, you will get more pups, and the birth won't be as difficult.

[cali]

the popular mix I keep seeing here now is pug/shih tzu there are ad's for them in like every second ad in the paper. you will also find a lot of BC/heeler mixes in the paper. as for my opinion on breeding mixes, well my definintion of a good breeder is not exactly the same as many peoples, I dont really care if a responsable person breeds mixes, its the mills and BYBs that are the problem, and just as there are BYBs and responsable breeders for purbreds there is the same for mixed breeds. I dont beleive in breeding for apearence, and as everyone here already knows I am highly against showing. however the only reason I am against showing is because it promotes breeding to an appearence standerd. yes, a good breeder breeds to a breed standerd, however I am hardly speaking of apearence. when people breed mixes for a reason I have nothing whatsoever against it. for example I support the breeding of BorderJacks, of coarse I dont suport the puppy mills and BYBs that produce then, but neither will the other flyball people! because if the parents have not made a name for themselves in the flyball world, the flyball people wont even look. the Good BorderJack breeder will NOT sell to pet homes period. they go to flyball/agility homes and thats it. if you see them in the shelter, or a petstore, they are NOT from proven lines. to me a responsable breeder is one who does not mass produce, one who has proven stock(essentaily dogs who can do what they were bred to do, and do it well that goes for both mixes and purbreds), one who stands behind their dogs and keeps in touch, one who health tests and produces healthy, well structured dogs(by ability standerds not by show standerds) I think I covered everything...lol

and nobody bother flaming me because I have heard you all before, and just as you think your guys words are falling on deaf ears, so are mine.

[Tollers-n-Dobes]

I didn't know people were allowed to breed mixed breeds on purpose I guess you learn something new everyday I would LOVE to have another Toller/border collie but I wouldn't breed them. I think they make an excellent breed for a couple reasons:
1)they are great retrievers
2)they are soooo smart
3)they are very eager to please
4)they are very good at herding
I think too many people breed all the mentioned breeds, they are more popular than Labradors and Goldens in my City!