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    Perhaps you could buy a box of treats that are okay for him - lamb and rice are sometimes safe for itchy dogs, and give a bag pf biscuits to each grandparent for when Jasper's begging. Or, if he'll eat carrots, buy a bag of baby carrots for them each to keep around.

    From what I have heard, a lot of dog allergies are due to grains, how long has he been on the food he's currently on? Limiting his food sources will do a lot to help eliminate his allergies - or at least pin down what they might be!

    And I know you cannot answer this, but how come they make over-the-counter allergy medication for humans that doesn't cause liver damage in a life-shortening way, but cannot do it for dogs?

    I think the suggestion of contacting his breeder is a good one - I know MY allergies are in a great part inherited, maybe his are, too.

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    And, it's for sure something in the food? Could it be something as mundane as grass? My friend's chihuahua was allergic to grass! She indoor litter trained him and he was fine after that. But, he was little, too. I know dogs that have allergies respond really well when switched to the raw diet, but, people are understandably nervous about that switch, but, it is an option. And, are you involved with any boxer chat forums? Maybe someone out there has a similar situation? Couldn't hurt to join a couple and post pictures along with questions....


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    You know, guster girl, come to think of it, I used to have a spitz that was allergic to carpet! So there is a good chance that it is something besides the food.

    Something to think about though..

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    So sorry you didn't find out what causing Jaspers itching. You're a good "mom" or you wouldn't be trying all this for Jasper. Don't give up, there has to be an answer.Looks like you're getting a lot of suggestions from other posters and I'm sorry I have no new ones to offer, but I will keep you and Jasper in my thoughts and prayers.
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    Originally posted by guster girl
    Have you contacted his breeder and asked how his siblings were faring? Did his parents or grandparents have any allergies? I'm sorry, I've not really been following Jasper's story, so, these may have already been asked and answered!
    Yes, I have asked her, TWO puppies in the last FOUR years had alergies, and no his parents, sibling(he only had one sister) or other family members did not have any.

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    Originally posted by binka_nugget
    Maybe you can contact one of the specialists in PEI and ask about payment plans? You could even try arranging to have him transported with rescue dogs from various rescues. I know around here, it's not uncommon to see dogs (already with homes) in the same transport with rescue dogs to get somewhere they really need to go.

    Have you looked into home cooking? Even temporarily, it might help you pin point what he's allergic to. A lot of raw feeders only feed one meat in the beginning and slowly introduce new foods one at a time just in case the dog doesn't react well to a certain food.

    Don't feel bad Robyn! Sometimes, we just get unlucky. You're still a good dog mommy. Kaedyn's been getting really itchy lately and I suspect it has to do with food allergies. I'm in the same position as you. I can't afford testing which makes me feel bad but remember that you're trying your hardest and will eventually find something that will help out your dog!
    I will try to find out about the PEI stuff, and will also try to find out about home cooking/raw diet, I wanted to find out about raw diets before and asked my vet, but she didn't tell me anything except she was against it.

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    Originally posted by Karen
    Perhaps you could buy a box of treats that are okay for him - lamb and rice are sometimes safe for itchy dogs, and give a bag pf biscuits to each grandparent for when Jasper's begging. Or, if he'll eat carrots, buy a bag of baby carrots for them each to keep around.

    From what I have heard, a lot of dog allergies are due to grains, how long has he been on the food he's currently on? Limiting his food sources will do a lot to help eliminate his allergies - or at least pin down what they might be!

    And I know you cannot answer this, but how come they make over-the-counter allergy medication for humans that doesn't cause liver damage in a life-shortening way, but cannot do it for dogs?

    I think the suggestion of contacting his breeder is a good one - I know MY allergies are in a great part inherited, maybe his are, too.
    My grandparents still give him other things, left-overs, their food, CANDY..anything, my pops convinced that hes always hungry just because he'll eat anything

    And I think it's stupid that the alergy pills are really bad for their liver, it doesn't seem like they try hard enough!

    RIP Jasper. I can't believe you're gone.
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    Originally posted by guster girl
    And, it's for sure something in the food? Could it be something as mundane as grass? My friend's chihuahua was allergic to grass! She indoor litter trained him and he was fine after that. But, he was little, too. I know dogs that have allergies respond really well when switched to the raw diet, but, people are understandably nervous about that switch, but, it is an option. And, are you involved with any boxer chat forums? Maybe someone out there has a similar situation? Couldn't hurt to join a couple and post pictures along with questions....
    Before this food alergy test, Jasper had an environment alergy test, that tests 48 things in the environment(grass, dust, carpet..etc) and was also all negitive as well.

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    I'm so sorry to hear about your frustration and difficulty in all of this. Poor Jasper . I wish I knew more to suggest, but I really don't. I know my Willie had a flea allergy, he used to get fleas in Missouri and get horrible raw wounds on him from their bites and then he wouldn't leave them alone.

    Then Advantage came out and we got a lot of relief from that, and then I moved to Minnesota where I never have had problems with fleas since.

    I remember how horribly frustrating it was though and how miserable it was for Willie. I truly hope you are able to find a solution for Jasper.
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    Oh Jasper, i am so sorry to know about your allergies problem.
    I hope they will find a way to help you.

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    Oh Robyn i was hoping so much that the test results would come back with something. You are a fine Dog Mama and are doing a great job raising Jasper.

    I will have a talk to my Boxer friends and see what they have used for allergies in the past and will get back to you as soon as possible.

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    Jessica-We tried many things, after food trials didn't work, the vet did several skin scrapes and tested all kinds of skin diseases, and he also gets a pill every month for fleas, and all kinds of worms.

    Rhiannon-Thanks, I hope someone can help, I am also going to join some boxer groups, and am already part of a boxer forum.

    {{{Hugs}}} Also the hugs were given to Jasper

    RIP Jasper. I can't believe you're gone.
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    This is so weird!!! I hope they find whatever it is soon.. Those pictures of Jasper looked awful!! He's still a cutie though.

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    The vet was talking to the person in toronto, the lab that they sent his blood to, and that person thinks it may not be alergies($350 later ) So now they think it could have something to do with his skin, and a few things that boxers are prone to that has to do with their skin(not really sure what yet) but I guess we're going to do more and more tests.

    First they want to do a biopsy of his skin or something, Im not sure, but I will keep you all updated...my poor boy

    RIP Jasper. I can't believe you're gone.
    RIP Tigger...I miss you every single day.
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    Robyn, Arthur and I are sending you both GREAT BIG hugs and puppy kisses!! (the puppy kisses are from Arthur, not me. )

    I'm so sorry to hear you're going thru all of this. I can only imagine how frustrating it must be. If you only knew what he was alergic to. It's the not knowing which is worse than anything I think. Your grandparents are starting to tick me off I'm sorry to say. You're being a lot nicer than I would. I'd be marching up there and really going off on them! And I'd hit them where it's hurts too... "You could be killing him! Then it'll be on YOUR conscience!" But then, I'm kinda vindictive like that... Lord knows Arthur would eat everything in the fridge if I let him. It doesn't mean he's hungry, it just means he's a puppy. I'm just sorry you have to go through all of this.

    I hope you can find some way to get Jasper to PEI and to the right vet. If I lived closer I'd be totally willing to help you out. Who was it that suggested some of the PTers offer help? That might not be a bad idea. I'm sure we could get something organised, if someone wanted to. We could open a PayPal account or something, ask for donations then get a check and send it to you to help with transport and vet bills. I'd be willing to help out with that too, definitely.

    I'll keep my fingers crossed for you, and I'll light a candle with a thought for Jasper and hope for health. Hang in there, kiddo! We're all right behind ya!
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