Dog rescues

[guster girl]

Ok, just a question....the person's mom signed a contract that the dog they were going to adopt would be kept indoors, and, then stated that she kept her dog outdoors. how can they take the dog they already have away from them because they signed papers saying they would keep the beagle (lady) indoors? I can see not letting them take lady, but, how could the shelter take manny away from them? Sorry, i got confused!

[lovemyshiba]

Originally posted by manny doodle

As my mom gave back the info. sheet, the employees asked my mom one question:where do you keep oyur dog? My mom answered in the garage/ backyard. The employees where horified! (we got our other dog there)

From what I understand from what she posted here, they got their current dog from the same shelter.

[DogLover9501]

Well soooorrrryy, god you must be so full of yourself that you are willing to take away a loved pet form a family that has loved and cared for him for 3years and has payed for the vet bills and the training and all of the devices that we used when he barked at nothing.

I don't think it has anything to do with being "full of theirselves" dogs should be inside, also do you mean like shock collars? I don't like those, your dog was probably barking because it wanted to be inside(where is should be), it was scared, stressed..etc.

Also if your mom signed a legal contract, they aren't going to just forget about it just because you cared for him for 3 years..etc

And everyone pays for training, vet bills...etc, that is part of owning the dog, you say it like you didn't have to do it but you did anyway, but its a huge part of the responsibility of owning a dog.

[GoldenRetrLuver]

I know manny doodle in real life....and her dog is NOT kept outdoors 24/7. She loves Manny (her current dog) just as much as everyone loves their own here. He is in the house ALL the time, so don't think he doesn't get any attention what so ever.
She told me she visited another shelter (the one I visit) and filled out an application for a dog and the volunteers said she would be the perfect applicant for one! She's going to look at a puppy today....so I'll let you guys know how it goes, if she doesn't beat me to it.

[dukedogsmom]

I don't agree with dogs being kept in the back yard, either. The shelter workers could have handled that with more tact, however. Dogs are very personable animals and don't like being by themselves, especially for long amounts of time. I don't have a fenced in yard but even if I did, I couldn't bear to have my dog outside all the time. And down here, it's way too hot in the summer for dogs to be outside.
Oops, sorry, just now saw the msg above me.

[popcornbird]

Personally, I wouldn't have a pet and keep it outdoors, ever, but I don't think you can equate keeping a dog outdoors to abuse. It depends on how its done, what climate it lives in, how much interaction it gets, etc.

We *used to* have these next-door neighbors who had a golden retriever, that was kept outside. They had built a huge area in the backyard just for the dog, with an insulated room, a dog run, lots of toys to play with, etc. Their kids were outside with the dog all the time after school, for hours, and in the morning, their mom was with him. He got tons of attention, always went for walks and everywhere else with them, and was a very happy and healthy dog. The only thing was, they kept him outside. While I do think keeping him inside would be much better, I still cannot say they were wrong in what they did, because to be honest, he was better cared for than many inside dogs that I know. He was spoiled, loved, and got everything he needed.

I know the folks at the shelter only want what's best for the dog, but it also depends on what sort of care/attention the animal is getting, which perhaps they weren't aware of, or freaked out just at the thought of the animal staying outdoors. Seeing that Manny doodle lives in CA, the weather really shouldn't be an issue either. I'm not saying I think it right to keep pets outdoors, because I don't, but in certain situations, its not always bad either.

[Twisterdog]

Well, everything I would say here has already been stated, so I'll just say that I'm SO happy to see most of my fellow-PTer's agreeing that a pet belongs in the house with its family, not in the yard. If you want something to live in your backyard, plant a tree.

Without a single doubt, I would absolutely deny an applicant one of my rescue dogs if they were going to keep it outside. I wouldn't go any further on the application - end of story.

And I also know, without a doubt, that if found out someone had violated my rescue contract, I WOULD take the dog back. I would, and I have. Breach of contract is illegal.

[GoldenRetrLuver]

In case anyone missed my post....

Originally posted by GoldenRetrLuver
I know manny doodle in real life....and her dog is NOT kept outdoors 24/7. She loves Manny (her current dog) just as much as everyone loves their own here. He is in the house ALL the time, so don't think he doesn't get any attention what so ever.
She told me she visited another shelter (the one I visit) and filled out an application for a dog and the volunteers said she would be the perfect applicant for one! She's going to look at a puppy today....so I'll let you guys know how it goes, if she doesn't beat me to it.

[guster girl]

Originally posted by lovemyshiba
From what I understand from what she posted here, they got their current dog from the same shelter.

Ah, I see. I misread it, it seemed like just improper grammar to me (like she was saying that keep their other dog outside). Oops, gotcha! Yeah, they completely had the right to even take the other dog. Wow. What a mess.

[Kfamr]

I agree with everything Aly said.

[guster girl]

Originally posted by GoldenRetrLuver
I know manny doodle in real life....and her dog is NOT kept outdoors 24/7. She loves Manny (her current dog) just as much as everyone loves their own here. He is in the house ALL the time, so don't think he doesn't get any attention what so ever.
She told me she visited another shelter (the one I visit) and filled out an application for a dog and the volunteers said she would be the perfect applicant for one! She's going to look at a puppy today....so I'll let you guys know how it goes, if she doesn't beat me to it.

So, why was it told to the shelter people (ESPECIALLY the shelter people) and to us that they keep their dog outdoors, if it's not where he's kept for the majority of the time? I mean, heck, that would be awesome if he spent most of his time indoors, but, that wasn't the impression I got.

[micki76]

Originally posted by guster girl
So, why was it told to the shelter people (ESPECIALLY the shelter people) and to us that they keep their dog outdoors, if it's not where he's kept for the majority of the time? I mean, heck, that would be awesome if he spent most of his time indoors, but, that wasn't the impression I got.

Yep, same here.

[GoldenRetrLuver]

Originally posted by guster girl
So, why was it told to the shelter people (ESPECIALLY the shelter people) and to us that they keep their dog outdoors, if it's not where he's kept for the majority of the time? I mean, heck, that would be awesome if he spent most of his time indoors, but, that wasn't the impression I got.

The shelter she went to first I believe was a rescue. This one that I just mentioned, was a regular animal shelter where the puppy is.
I, personally, don't have a problem seeing a dog sleeping outdoors as long as they get the attention and time they need. Some people on here are making it seem like she's a bad person for keeping her dog outdoors, and that her dog should be taken away, when she's a good dog owner. Where a dog sleeps doesn't determine whether he/she gets the right amount of attention and care.

[Lissa]

Both of my grandparents had outdoor dogs and I can tell you they didn't lack for love. We tried to take them inside and both of them ate through the doors. They had wonderful setups in the garage, and both of my grandpa's would get up at night to but more logs on the wood stoves they had in the garage. Snoopy had a large fenced yard that he and my grandpa spent the day in together, and Pal got several long walks a day as well as lots of attention. I like my pets indoors, but I don't think that if you have outdoor animals that means you abuse them. Both dogs lived 16-18 years and were put down for different health reasons (they were in lots of pain and couldn't even get up). Thats just my opinion though. I think that a dog can live a great life outdoors if treated right.

[lovemyshiba]

I'm confused too.
Why on earth would you tell the people at the shelter that you kept your dog outdoors, when you specifically knew that they were going to have a problem with it.

While I don't necessarily think that a dog living outdoors is equal to abuse, I just don't understand it. My dogs are members of my family, and they deserve to live inside with the humans.

I like what Twisterdog said (if I may quote you): "If you want something to live in your backyard, plant a tree."