Anyone have HBO?

[lovemyshiba]

I just finished watching it.
It was very good, although I do have a headache from crying.

They followed a few stories, some which ended up good, some bad

I'm not going to spoil it for anyone who hasn't seen it yet, but it was very hard to watch. I just sat on the floor with my 4, and hugged them all, let Abbey lick my tears away, and buried my head in her fur when I couldn't bear to watch.

[mugsy]

I was afraid that's what it was going to be....I can't watch it. I'm like Aly...I would be depressed for months after that. Thanks for the heads up.

[clara4457]

I watched the entire thing - and I also had tears going in the first 5 minutes. I know many people here deal with issues like this on a daily basis and it could be too painful to watch.

That being said - I hope every human being who has every made comments like, "It's just a dog" or "It is fine living outside" or "I don't want to spay/neuter my dog because puppies are so cute" or "I can't afford to take my dog to the vet" or similar comments watch and learn. Thousands and thousands of dogs are put down every year because there are not enough homes for them all.

NO MORE BREEDING

[lovemyshiba]

Originally posted by clara4457


NO MORE BREEDING

Amen, Clara!!!!!!!

[Sudilar]

Today I was at our rescue president's house and we watched it together. She had already seen it yesterday and she wanted me to see it. I watched it objectively. It made me angry. I have some serious problems with some of this woman's actions. If there is a discussion about this topic, please let me know.

[aly]

When I first started volunteering at shelters, I watched some of Sue Sternberg's videos. I cried and cried (didn't see euthanasia, but saw her make the decisions regarding euthanasia). I hated her with a passion. But then after talking to several other volunteers at my shelter, they helped me understand her. I think she has done a lot of good and has made several very valuable resources for shelter information. Her adoption book is really good (it has a strong emphasis on temperament testing). However, I am too soft-hearted to be able to feel ok about any euthanasia decision. She seems matter-of-fact about it on her videos (thats what makes me mad), but when she gives talks in real life, she's more compassionate. Anyway, her area is very different than my area as far as dog mixes and a greater number of questionable backyard breeders.

So I guess I have mixed thoughts on her.

What I do know is I won't be watching that video. I can't see a dog die. It'd probably kill me

[dukedogsmom]

This is off topic but I saw a special one time on what happens to Greyhounds after their racing time is up. Made me sick. So I know I wouldn't like watching this, either. Aly, she probably still feels sad about it. It's just like with my job, you have to condition yourself against all the seriousness of the every day things that happen while working. I'm a dispatcher and we hear all kinds of thing but if we let everything bother us, we would all be basket cases.

[aly]

Originally posted by dukedogsmom
This is off topic but I saw a special one time on what happens to Greyhounds after their racing time is up. Made me sick. So I know I wouldn't like watching this, either. Aly, she probably still feels sad about it. It's just like with my job, you have to condition yourself against all the seriousness of the every day things that happen while working. I'm a dispatcher and we hear all kinds of thing but if we let everything bother us, we would all be basket cases.

Yeah, I realized she was sad about it after I saw her speak in person. I tried to say that in my previous post, but it didn't come out right, hehe. I know she has to sort of turn herself off sometimes. After being in the business for 20 years, she has to or she'd be insane by now!

[clara4457]

I also would like to engage in a discussion about the documentary, but I obviously don't want to spoil it for those people who have not seen it. There were parts in it that disturbed me deeply.

My fear is that a discussion of it would cause many hurt feelings. On my shelter trainers group, it is always a hot topic. Even though all are in support of temperment testing and many have to make the same hard decisions she does, heated debates happen at times. It has basically been determined that on this topic "We all agree to disagree".

[Sudilar]

There is a discussion on the GSDbb that is very interesting. I personally thought that she had it in for that CockerSpaniel. That disturbed me greatly. .......I can't say more, it will give it away to those who haven't seen it. Let me know if a discussion pops up.

[lovemyshiba]

Originally posted by Sudilar
There is a discussion on the GSDbb that is very interesting. I personally thought that she had it in for that CockerSpaniel. That disturbed me greatly. .......I can't say more, it will give it away to those who haven't seen it. Let me know if a discussion pops up.

That is exactly what bothered me the most.

It seems as though she really pushed him to his limits.

Maybe we could start a discussion in the Dog House?

[Tina]

I watched some of it but it was just to sad So I didn't finish watching it. The cocker spaniel part really got to me. I felt sick to my stomach.

There is a discussion on the GSDbb that is very interesting. I personally thought that she had it in for that CockerSpaniel. That disturbed me greatly. .......I can't say more, it will give it away to those who haven't seen it. Let me know if a discussion pops up.

Some people were talking about it at the BoxerWorld board also. How disturbing it was.

[dukedogsmom]

What is temperament testing? And could someone pm me with the info about the cocker spaniel?

[clara4457]

Temperment testing is when a animal behaviorist go through a series of tests to determine a dog's temperment. Generally the test inludes things such as:

1. Food aggression (can you touch them or their food bowl while they are eating
   
2. Resource guarding (can you take toys or rawhides away from them)
   
3. Dominant traits or submissive traits
   
4. Reactions to sudden noises (do they startle easy and cower, or do the react but are then curious)
   
5. Reactions to small animals (prey drive)
   
6. Reactions to small children (to determine if they can live in a household with small children)
   
7. Dog on Dog aggression

Most shelters use them to determine the kind of home a particular dog should go to. With/without other dogs or cats. With/without children. In a home with an exprienced dog owner. That kind of thing. Sometimes they are used to determine whether or not a dog is aggressive and should be euthanized.

I can pm you the details on the cocker spaniel, but I am not sure you can really understand unless you see it.

[lizbud]

Please can we you all wait till next week to discuss the
video? My daughter was to tape it & send it to me. Maybe
someone could start a discussion, whatever next week. I
hope to get the tape & view it this weekend. O.K. ?

And please don't put this in the Dog House. I have never seen a serious subject yet in DH that has stayed on a sane level as an exchange of thoughts & ideas and not turned into some kind of
a freak show. I'd like to discuss the film with folks after I do see
it, but don't want to argue or put down someone else's feelings
about it.