Mass. outlaws ban on same sex marriages

[CathyBogart]

Actually, Relentless, I have to disagree. I've known a few people who were adopted as young'uns to gay couples and they both said that they didn't really get teased about it.

Maybe that's just my area though. I know CA is pretty open-minded.

[babolaypo65]

Originally posted by Relentless
I think people should be able to marry whoever they want, but I'm not so sure they should be able to adopt kids, my heart goes out to those who were adopted by a gay couple for they will be teased beyond anyones wild imagination by ignorant teens and biggots.

They may be teased. You're right (until WE straight folks teach our kids NOT to judge), but is it then better for the kids NOT to be adopted?
Let's say it's a hard to place kid, someone older even (just to make the discussion easier), or a kid with a disability, is it BETTER for that kid to remain "in the system", in foster care, in an orphanage?

Kids get teased for lots of things. I was raised by two straight parents, didn't stop me from being teased because we were poor. I didn't have fancy new clothes, rode the bus, had to wait for pay day to get school supplies....Should poor people not be allowed to have kids?

not trying to pick on you, but not sure this argument holds water.

[Relentless]

Originally posted by WolfChan
Actually, Relentless, I have to disagree. I've known a few people who were adopted as young'uns to gay couples and they both said that they didn't really get teased about it.

Maybe that's just my area though. I know CA is pretty open-minded.

CA is pretty open minded the small town in Washington I live in isn't and I have seen the few gays here harassed harshly.

[Relentless]

Originally posted by babolaypo65
They may be teased. You're right (until WE straight folks teach our kids NOT to judge), but is it then better for the kids NOT to be adopted?
Let's say it's a hard to place kid, someone older even (just to make the discussion easier), or a kid with a disability, is it BETTER for that kid to remain "in the system", in foster care, in an orphanage?

Kids get teased for lots of things. I was raised by two straight parents, didn't stop me from being teased because we were poor. I didn't have fancy new clothes, rode the bus, had to wait for pay day to get school supplies....Should poor people not be allowed to have kids?

not trying to pick on you, but not sure this argument holds water.

I grew up poor too, still am, and was teased about it, but I got a job at sixteen and bought my new clothes and made myself look like the richest kid in school, see I did something about it, in this situation theres not much you can do about it.

[babolaypo65]

so, the answer to my query is.... leave them in the system so they won't be teased?

ps, hey, you got a job. Now you can pay for the music you download!

[Relentless]

Originally posted by babolaypo65
so, the answer to my query is.... leave them in the system so they won't be teased?

ps, hey, you got a job. Now you can pay for the music you download!

Actually I lost the job quite some time ago I'm currently unemployed and living off my roomate, shes a saint really to put up with me for so long. Yeah, I'd say leave them in to avoid getting teased, getting teased is pretty damaging, it causes disasters like Columbine.

[babolaypo65]

Originally posted by Relentless
Actually I lost the job quite some time ago I'm currently unemployed and living off my roomate, shes a saint really to put up with me for so long. Yeah, I'd say leave them in to avoid getting teased, getting teased is pretty damaging, it causes disasters like Columbine.

Sorry to hear about the job.

Yes, teasing causes damage. So does not having parents to love you.
good night!

[Soledad]

Originally posted by Relentless
I think people should be able to marry whoever they want, but I'm not so sure they should be able to adopt kids, my heart goes out to those who were adopted by a gay couple for they will be teased beyond anyones wild imagination by ignorant teens and biggots.

I don't think people should not be allowed to do something because they *might* get teased. That was the argument a lot of people had years ago in regards to children of mixed races. It might be hard for the first generation, but it gets easier with time. No one benefits by living in fear.

[Relentless]

Originally posted by Soledad
I don't think people should not be allowed to do something because they *might* get teased. That was the argument a lot of people had years ago in regards to children of mixed races. It might be hard for the first generation, but it gets easier with time. No one benefits by living in fear.

I'd say its more than likely they'd get teased.

[CathyBogart]

Yes, but if it's not that, the other kids will fing *something* else to tease them about...how about the fact that they're adopted in the first place? There's always something.

I used to get teased for "looking like a boy", and now some of those same people have come back to hit on me! MUAHAHAHA!

[IttyBittyKitty]

IT'S ABOUT TIME ...

This is a step in the right direction towards greater acceptance, so that homosexuals AND any children they adopt!!!

[2kitties]

There are plenty of worse things to be teased about than for having two loving parents.

[Uabassoon]

The Straight but Not Narrow group on campus has a lot of people who were raised by a gay parent or parents, they all seem pretty well adjusted to me.. actually maybe even slightly more adjusted because they were raised to be open minded and tolerant. Pretty much all kids get teased for something, I'd much rather have two loving parents regardless if they were gay or straight than have to grow up in foster care.

[2kitties]

I like that "straight but not narrow." that's cool.

[Twisterdog]

Isn't being married the 'same sex' over and over and over again???

Hence the reason I'm single.


I think same-sex marriage is an idea whose time has more than come. Life is short. Love is hard to find. It shouldn't matter what your social standing, skin color or sexual preference is ... if you find the love of your life, then kudos to you. Most people aren't so lucky.

I think people should be able to marry whoever they want, but I'm not so sure they should be able to adopt kids, my heart goes out to those who were adopted by a gay couple for they will be teased beyond anyones wild imagination by ignorant teens and biggots.

It would certainly be a harder life, being the adopted child of gay parents. I think where you live makes a big difference. Growing up with gay parents in San Fransisco is a whole different story from growing up with gay parents in rural Alabama, yes? However ... no one ever made us a promise that life would always be easy. Sometimes overcoming adversity as a child makes us stronger, more tolerant adults. LOTS of kids get teased. If kids decide to single out a kid and tease them, they are going to find a reason ... be it the fact that his parents are gay, his hair is curly, his mom's car is old, his skill at sports is lacking, or his math grade is high. Kids get teased, kids endure, kids grow up.

Yeah, I'd say leave them in to avoid getting teased, getting teased is pretty damaging, it causes disasters like Columbine

I hate that response. "Bullies caused the Columbine shootings" ... oh, my rear end. A mentally unstable, sociopathic teenager with a gun cause Columbine. Period. Millions of kids across the world are teased and bullied every year. Yes, it's wrong, it stinks, it should stop. But teasing and bullying alone do not make a kid get a gun and kill his fellow students. If that were the case, we'd have a "Columbine" every day, in every school. I hate the current climate in this country today ... "Boo hoo, poor me, (fill in the blank)*, so I'm not to blame for my own actions, the world owes me something."

PUUH-leese.



* fill in the blank with one of the following whines:

... my mom was mean/fat/unloving/too clingy/too harsh/too lenient/worked too much/didn't work enough/yelled at me/never yelled at me/had a life/didn't have a life

... my dad was bald/left us/worked too much/didn't work enough/spanked me/didn't spank me/drank/smoked/didn't go to church/went to church

... other kids teased me/bullied me/liked me/hated me/made fun of me/tempted me to drink/do drugs/have sex/listen to satanic music/get a tattoo/pierce my nose/

... my dog ran away/got run over/lost a dog show/won a dog show/ate too much/ate the cat/ate the hamster/ate my new shirt/had puppies on my new shirt