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    It might be a left over arcane law from the 1700s. But no, you are not required to have a firearm in the U.S. ANYWHERE.
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    It was a good movie but almost everythin in it was WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The stats were SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO off, they made things look much worse!!!

    Remember the part were they were giving free guns at the bank, that was WRONG WRONG WRONG!!! The bank was linked with the gun shop beside it, the bank was giving away coupons for a discount at the store!!! Some buddies of Robs live near that bank & questioned them & thats what they told them.

    But I do agree the movie is worth while, it really does make u think. Just take what he says with a grain of salt (info wise). But he does have a good point. USA is a very dangerous place to live compaired to other countries (gun wise, school shooting yadda yadda yadda).

    We figure it because too many people live too close to eachother, & there isn't strict enough rules. China has the loest crime rate in the world, because the rules r soooo strick. So if China & USA got to gether I'm sure it would become a greater place to live. But this part is just my opinion. I was much happier in a small town, & now I'm in Canada's largest City & I'm not too happy, there r too many people.

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    Uh, China is responsible for some of the worst human rights abuses in the world. Crime may be low but that's because everyone lives in fear of the crimes the government will commit against them. That's one of the worst ideas I've ever heard.

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    STRICTER RULES!!! NOT ABUSE!!!! U steal something & u get in good **** for it, none of this BS slap on the hand BS!!! U kill someone & live a fairly ****ty/boring life, I'm sick of them living better then a lot of good people, computers, cable tv, $$ dinners, & don't say they don't get that crap, cause they do (I knew someone in there & he was being treated better then 1/2 our town!!!) & he tried to kill his best friend & only managed to shoot him in the back, while the guy out ran him!! HE ALSO GOT OFF ON GOOD BEHAVIOUR!!!!

    There was a reason I said Mix the 2!!! not turn into CHINA!!!

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    I don't think we have to turn to China to learn how to treat people. If you do, I suggest moving there and experiencing the "joy" of it's low-crime and "governmental intervention."

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    Originally posted by babolaypo65
    It might be a left over arcane law from the 1700s. But no, you are not required to have a firearm in the U.S. ANYWHERE.
    Actually, Kennesaw, Georgia, has had such a law on the books since 1982. And it was Virgin, Utah (not Virginia), that passed a law in 2000 requiring every head of household to maintain a firearm and ammunition.

    http://www.jcs-group.com/what/politic/virgin.html

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    Well ... I guess it is true ... that is nuts ... so what .. you get a fine if you don't have a gun?? thats just sick ..

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    I sadly stand corrected. and....
    Well there's a city I'LL never live in. AS for the U.S. needing to be more like China. I don't think its as simple as that. I also think the media has portrayed the U.S. in a skewed a manner as Michael Moore.
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    What Moore's "Documentary" fails to show is that most (over 90%, don't know the exact stat) guns used in crime are posessed illegally. It also fails to show the FBI figures that credit privately owned firearms with stopping about 1.2 million crimes per year. The reason firearm crime seems so rampant in the US is the "if it bleeds, it leads" mentality of the media. In reference to the comment about TV in Newfoundland, the US Media could easily show the same type of news, but they'd never get the advertising dollars that they get with their bloody mentality.

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    Originally posted by Lady's Human
    In reference to the comment about TV in Newfoundland, the US Media could easily show the same type of news, but they'd never get the advertising dollars that they get with their bloody mentality.
    And thats the sad thing about it ...

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    I think the most important point the movie made is that people in the U.S. are afraid of everyone and everything. And that fear is definitely not a recent invention of the media, because I'm 46 and it permeated the small town where I grew up.

    When I was a kid, other kids used to ask me whether I was afraid to go outside at night because I lived in the "bad" part of town. This was a town of 4,000 people in the middle of midwestern farm country. There was no "bad" part of town. I lived on the side of town where the handful of African-American families lived, and where a small public housing project was located.

    We lock ourselves inside our homes, we don't know or trust our neighbors. We're terrified (especially of anyone who's "different"), we're angry about being terrified, and we're armed. It's a lethal combination.

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    CatsinDenver - WELL SAID!!!

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    Originally posted by CatsinDenver
    I think the most important point the movie made is that people in the U.S. are afraid of everyone and everything. And that fear is definitely not a recent invention of the media, because I'm 46 and it permeated the small town where I grew up.

    When I was a kid, other kids used to ask me whether I was afraid to go outside at night because I lived in the "bad" part of town. This was a town of 4,000 people in the middle of midwestern farm country. There was no "bad" part of town. I lived on the side of town where the handful of African-American families lived, and where a small public housing project was located.

    We lock ourselves inside our homes, we don't know or trust our neighbors. We're terrified (especially of anyone who's "different"), we're angry about being terrified, and we're armed. It's a lethal combination.
    I'm not afraid! I dislike the media - any media - telling me that I am! And, by the way, I like my neighbors. I live on a pretty diversely-populated street, various ethnicities and everything from new immigrants, and people who have lived here for 80+ years. And I live in a "city," too. I wave to people when I drive down my humble little street, and they wave back.

    As for Bowling for Columbine, read that site Paul pointed too. Boy, was I annoyed when I realized how much the movie twisted things and misrepresented stuff.

    By the way, I am also the worst bowler in my family. Am routinely beaten by small children - and I'm trying my best! Oh well.

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    Originally posted by Karen
    I'm not afraid! I dislike the media - any media - telling me that I am! And, by the way, I like my neighbors. I live on a pretty diversely-populated street, various ethnicities and everything from new immigrants, and people who have lived here for 80+ years. And I live in a "city," too. I wave to people when I drive down my humble little street, and they wave back.

    As for Bowling for Columbine, read that site Paul pointed too. Boy, was I annoyed when I realized how much the movie twisted things and misrepresented stuff.
    You're very lucky! Where I live, houses have bars on the windows. A neighborhood organization sends out a map every month with little symbols showing what crimes were reported in what location. Little masks representing burglaries, little cars representing stolen cars, little bodies representing homicides. I like living in the city, but there's no doubt that people are afraid.

    One thing that Michael Moore got right in Bowling for Columbine is that many people in Denver were offended by the NRA's insistence on going ahead with its meeting here in the wake of the Columbine tragedy. This town was in shock. So what if it would have inconvenienced the organization to cancel and reschedule its annual meeting elsewhere? It just wasn't the time or the place to be promoting the pro-gun agenda.

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    Originally posted by CatsinDenver
    [B]You're very lucky! Where I live, houses have bars on the windows. A neighborhood organization sends out a map every month with little symbols showing what crimes were reported in what location. Little masks representing burglaries, little cars representing stolen cars, little bodies representing homicides. I like living in the city, but there's no doubt that people are afraid.
    LOL That is NUTS!! where I live I can leave my door unlocked at night, and drive to a convenience store and leave the car running in the parking lot while I pick up something ..

    I just find it so funny how things are so completely different

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