huge sacrifice

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by Soledad
I guess I don't understand why someone would quote a pop star and think it was in anyway insightful or revealing.

well spank me raw for loving a good looking gal and not holding a
war monster as my personal hero.......ya got me on that one, babe......of course faith is skinny and good looking.......

whoa this is a war thread......

so why the attraction to herr goering????

lol

[Cincy'sMom]

A friend of mine from high school is a Marine, fighting in Iraq right now. Shortly before he left, he sent his dad an email, part of which his dad shared with the local paper in Findlay. Unfortunatly I do not have a copy of the letter in front of me, but one part I remember was that the majority of the men in Brian's unit are not native-born Americans. They, like Jose, immigrated to this country and are now proud to be defending it. I think we all take the freedoms we have for granted.

[Soledad]

If you cannot understand the relevance of the quote, I really can't help you. If you cannot see that the quote is relevant because it IS from a war criminal and a Nazi, then you are even more pathetic than I originally imagined.

When the actions of some Americans are similar and in line with the words of a Nazi war criminal, it's pause for thought.

And just for clarification, my personal hero is my mother who fought poverty, prejudice and hatred with integrity and grace.

[ChrisH]

Oh, boy the tears are flowing here........
Thank you Richard for telling us about three of the brave men who have lost their lives in this war.
Thank you too Pam, I will add those men into my prayers.
Thank you Jackie.

You may be interested in reading this.
Communities grieve for war casualties

Chris

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by Soledad
If you cannot understand the relevance of the quote, I really can't help you. If you cannot see that the quote is relevant because it IS from a war criminal and a Nazi, then you are even more pathetic than I originally imagined.

When the actions of some Americans are similar and in line with the words of a Nazi war criminal, it's pause for thought.

And just for clarification, my personal hero is my mother who fought poverty, prejudice and hatred with integrity and grace.

actually i read the quote and it's the blue print for a madman's
overthrow of a society.........

"some americans"...does that include the soldiers who are executing his diabolical plans to take over iraq??

so why keep it as a sig? there were far greater men in history
(pick one and make sure it's not some scumbag war criminal)
whose wisdom and clarity are words of inspiration and not a
plan to stomp on society for their own benefit.


you know, my pathos is rather attractive to the right women, but remember i don't like war criminals.......they make me feel ucky..


love,
me

[Soledad]

When soldiers rule the government, maybe then I'll be able to dislike them. But when they are subject to the will of a few people (most of whom had not had the guts to serve themselves) I will hold no ill will towards them, as they are doing what they are told and do so with honorable intentions.

The quote is powerful because it gives one pause for thought. Could it be that our own leaders think similarly?? I have two words for you: Pax Americana.

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by Soledad
When soldiers rule the government, maybe then I'll be able to dislike them. But when they are subject to the will of a few people (most of whom had not had the guts to serve themselves) I will hold no ill will towards them, as they are doing what they are told and do so with honorable intentions.

The quote is powerful because it gives one pause for thought. Could it be that our own leaders think similarly?? I have two words for you: Pax Americana.

gee i forgot ALL MY LATIN, son of a gun, and i was an altar boy too..............

you lose......first you shoot yourself in the foot by hinting that
the leaders want to take over Iraq, and the only way to do that is to send american soldiers there........but you can't bad mouth the soldiers because they are mindlessly obeying the boss???

honorable intentions????

pretzel logic........damn, i thought you had a point there and you go and screw it up............geez......

at times it's better to beat a hasty retreat than to be hastily beaten while retreating.......george custer

[Soledad]

Do the soldiers have a say in Iraq? No, they don't. When we have a military dictatorship with ruthless military thugs in our homes, then I will turn my anger to soldiers.

There is no pretzel logic, RICHARD. A soldier has orders, it's just that simple. And with ole Vietnam-dogdging Bush and Cheney at the helm, it's not their choice. They signed up to protect America, and joined with honorable intentions. It is their duty to do as they are told. It's not their fault that Bush & Co. cannot use diplomacy.

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by Soledad
Do the soldiers have a say in Iraq? No, they don't. When we have a military dictatorship with ruthless military thugs in our homes, then I will turn my anger to soldiers.

There is no pretzel logic, RICHARD. A soldier has orders, it's just that simple. And with ole Vietnam-dogdging Bush and Cheney at the helm, it's not their choice. They signed up to protect America, and joined with honorable intentions. It is their duty to do as they are told. It's not their fault that Bush & Co. cannot use diplomacy.

now wait a second--you are anti war but you have a problem because bush and cheney weren't in Viet Nam...
lolololololololololololo....

ouch i just got a cramp from laughing!!!!!!!!


no self respecting general of ANY BRANCH of the service would be so stupid to send their forces on a suicide march....



bush and co...... i shopped there once.


again, take your pretty little head outta the history books and
jump right up here and start looking at the future.........
try to get some vision into your eyes, instead of living by the
downer that some of our history is.

it's a drag hanging out with people who have such a poo poo outlook on life. you are bringing the thread down..

[Soledad]

Either you are truly stupid or truly evil. Perhaps both.

I am opposed to leaders who are cavalier about the lives of soldiers, when they themselves have never served.

The fact that General Schwarzkopf was opposed to this war should mean something.

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by Soledad
Either you are truly stupid or truly evil. Perhaps both.

I am opposed to leaders who are cavalier about the lives of soldiers, when they themselves have never served.

The fact that General Schwarzkopf was opposed to this war should mean something.

stupid and evil.....

thanks! that makes me more of a commodity in this craxy mixed up world!!!!!!

cavalier........an offering from chevy if i remember correctly, nice cars....


did you know that the General's dad was a cop in NJ and helped with the lindbergh kidnapping??

The fact that the GEN. is retired and not privy to sensitive material should mean something!


(sticks and stones will break my bones- but my oh my aren't we
in a mood today!!!!!!)

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by Cincy'sMom
A friend of mine from high school is a Marine, fighting in Iraq right now. Shortly before he left, he sent his dad an email, part of which his dad shared with the local paper in Findlay. Unfortunatly I do not have a copy of the letter in front of me, but one part I remember was that the majority of the men in Brian's unit are not native-born Americans. They, like Jose, immigrated to this country and are now proud to be defending it. I think we all take the freedoms we have for granted.

all the more reason to fight very hard, no matter the situation,
to keep that freedom going.....it's funny how people who came here and were given the chance to prosper and reap the benefits
of the systems are more than willing to defend it with their being.

what can you say?

[mugsy]

Says a lot about the spoiled brats we have here doesn't it?

It is good to be reminded as we go on with our everyday lives that there are people fighting and dying to make sure that the freedoms that we have remain secure and that others may enjoy their benefits. My thoughts and prayers are with the soldiers and their families and the families of those who died defending our freedom.

[RICHARD]

Originally posted by mugsy
My thoughts and prayers are with the soldiers and their families and the families of those who died defending our freedom.

sweetie,

you just signed up for a job that's 227 years in the making.

i volunteer some of my time too!

[mugsy]

Yes, I know, I have had relatives fight in every war that the U.S. has been involved in, so , yep, I have LOTS of prayers. Now, as of right now, I don't have anyone in Iraq, but that's the only one. And actually, I have relatives that fought before 227 years...my ggggg grandfather fought in the French and Indian War.