yogurt drops

[luckies4me]

But why would you want to risk their health? Ethoxyquin has killed TONS of animals!!! Please go to this site to learn more..they also have a movie that is VERY good.

My view is, even if it is a little bit it can cause so much harm and I would rather not risk my rats life than to feed something that has just a bit because the truth is evena little tiny bit if fed over and over and ove effects them.

Ehtoxyquin


Note that it has been found in research that several lab rats have suffered serious birthing complications etc. when fed even small portions of this chemical..and it is not really regulated by the USDA and Food and Drug Administration.

You can find several articles online and also talk to your vet about the effects of this chemical on rats.

[Desert Arabian]

Not once did I see the word "rat" mentioned in that article about dogs and the effects of Ethoxyquin on them.

[wolfsoul]

i wouldnt risk it either...when i found out about pine shavings being bad for pocket pets, i threw them away...two full bags of pine shavings...and it didnt even make my rat sick...there was some porphyrin, but the vet told me that that was normal and that its nothing to worry about *makes a voodoo doll of vet* mwahaha *ahem* lol

[luckies4me]

It doesn't have to mention rats. Do a search and you wil find articles that mention rats. If it does that to dogs which are so many tims bigger than rats (and the same amount is used in foods) imagine what it could do to an even smaller animal such as a rat! Scary stuff! You should watch the video!

[Desert Arabian]

Just because it affects dogs DOES NOT mean it can affect rats. They are two total different species. For example, we can eat 3 chocolate bars and not die, if a dog eats 1 chocolate bar it can be fatal.

Wolfsoul- It worries me to read your posts.

[wolfsoul]

Originally posted by luckies4me
It doesn't have to mention rats. Do a search and you wil find articles that mention rats. If it does that to dogs which are so many tims bigger than rats (and the same amount is used in foods) imagine what it could do to an even smaller animal such as a rat! Scary stuff! You should watch the video!

video! weee now i have to watch it!

[luckies4me]

Yes but it does effect rats...which is what I am saying.

I amspending WAY too much time here lol...I need to get going so I will talk to you all later. Cya!

[wolfsoul]

Originally posted by YellowLabLover
Just because it affects dogs DOES NOT mean it can affect rats. They are two total different species. For example, we can eat 3 chocolate bars and not die, if a dog eats 1 chocolate bar it can be fatal.

Wolfsoul- It worries me to read your posts.

she said that other sites mention rats though...maybe check and see?
y does reading my posts worry u? its not my fault i asked how much yoggies r and it led to this...if u ask me, its better it led to this...now ppl can be more educated on the affects of such things as these.

[Aspen and Misty]

This is one interesting thread! LOL

Ash

[wolfsoul]

Originally posted by Aspen and Misty
This is one interesting thread! LOL

Ash

lol no doubt...its cuz i made it lol just kiddin witcha

[Desert Arabian]

I'm not worried about the thread you make...I am worried about the things you are doing to you rats.

You used pine bedding/bought pine bedding. When you did your research before you bought rats (that's what your supposed to do) didn't you read about how cedar and pine can kill rats?????? If it wasn't for Luckies clearing up your mistakes i.e. over dosing rats on suppliments and vitamins and saying it's ok to give rats Hamster food, you would be educating the public in a bad fashion. I tried to hold this in for a long time, but I can't hold it any longer....I'm sorry but I tried REALLY REALLY REALLY hard.

(That's all I'm gunna say....don't need to fight/argue. )

[Aspen and Misty]

Originally posted by YellowLabLover
saying it's ok to give rats Hamster food,

You can feed rats hamster food. I never knew that, o gee. This Luckies4me, always teaching people

Ash

[Desert Arabian]

No...it's not a good idea to give rats hamster/gerbil food. Luckies just cleared that up for everyone.

[Aspen and Misty]

Originally posted by YellowLabLover
No...it's not a good idea to give rats hamster/gerbil food. Luckies just cleared that up for everyone.

I know I was just kiddin, LOL. N/nm if you read this

[wolfsoul]

Originally posted by YellowLabLover
I'm not worried about the thread you make...I am worried about the things you are doing to you rats.

You used pine bedding/bought pine bedding. When you did your research before you bought rats (that's what your supposed to do) didn't you read about how cedar and pine can kill rats?????? If it wasn't for Luckies clearing up your mistakes i.e. over dosing rats on suppliments and vitamins and saying it's ok to give rats Hamster food, you would be educating the public in a bad fashion. I tried to hold this in for a long time, but I can't hold it any longer....I'm sorry but I tried REALLY REALLY REALLY hard.

(That's all I'm gunna say....don't need to fight/argue. )

like i said, i didnt have the internet, and i couldnt find any books on rats, so i just asked the petshops and the vet....they told me what they thought they knew was good or bad, and they really didnt say much in the bad section...they told me that shavings are fine, that gerbil and hamster food is healthy to use for a full diet, that porphyrin is normal and nothing to worry about...i got upset one day when i saw Frisco bruxing cuz i didnt know what it was so i took him to the vet (against my mothers will...got in biiig trouble) and he said that frisco has brain damage and that it would also contribute to his hyperactive behaviour....they told me all this crap and when i finally got the internet, i realised that they were wrong...
as u can see, i corrected myself when talking about the gerbil/hamster food...she was referring to the stuff with alphalpha and corn in it, and i was referring to just the regular mix of seeds kind (the kind that IS safe)