View Poll Results: SHOULD A CITY/GOV'T. LEGISLATE CAT DECLAWING?

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  • YES, THE CITY SHOULD BE INVOLVED

    14 58.33%
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  • SPEND MORE TIME ON SPAY /NEUTER LAWS

    7 29.17%
  • DECLAW THE CITY COUNCIL

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  1. #1
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    I'm against it. Unlike spay/neuter, which is actually beneficial to the animal and protects him/her and the population in general, declawing is beneficial only to humans who value their stuff more than a living thing. I take a hard line and won't place my foster kittens with someone who has declawed cats before. I know people can lie but I try my best.

    As far as legislation goes, many laws on the books started as grass-roots efforts in CA. California is a benchmark for the future of the USA in many ways, good bad or indifferent!

    Well, so much for the rant.
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    the bill passed!!!!

    last night the city council passed the bill!!!

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    So I have to cancel my vote which was "Declaw the City Council"

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    Re: the bill passed!!!!

    Originally posted by RICHARD
    last night the city council passed the bill!!!
    Wonderful news!!!!!! YAY!!!!
    ...RIP, our sweet Gini...

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    That is wonderful news!!!

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    S U P E R !!!!!

    S U P E R !!!!!!!

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    Originally posted by moosmom
    I am dead set against declawing. In fact, the United States is the only country that DOESN'T outlaw declawing.
    Actually, that is not true. There are many countries that do not ban declawing including Canada, Poland, Czech Republic, Ukraine, etc!

    The following is a list of countries in which declawing cats is either illegal or considered extremely inhumane and only performed under extreme circumstances. This information was obtained from this site: :Declawing

    England
    Scotland
    Wales
    Italy
    France
    Germany
    Austria
    Switzerland
    Norway
    Sweden
    Netherlands
    Northern Ireland
    Ireland
    Denmark
    Finland
    Slovenia
    Portugal
    Belgium
    Spain
    Brazil
    Australia
    New Zealand

    I have the same opinions as the rest of you. Why put your materialistic items first? The majority of people I have spoken to are not educated enough on animal procedures to even know the difference! I had one friend who thought declawing was a normal procedure when you take a cat into a home.

    Education is severely lacking, especially in many vet's offices! It's horrible, since they can be the best educators. When I took Nakita in to get spayed the next question was whether I wanted the package which included declawing. No education or information was given to me except the price of the package.

    Pictures can totally help and they should be present in the packages given to new cat owners. It's really sad that so many animals have to go through such an unnecessary procedure.



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    Originally posted by Russian Blue


    Why put your materialistic items first?

    actually, i am glad that eddie has clawed the hell outta my recliner (it's the only thing he sharpens his claws on.....) the dang thing is 15 years old and i want a new one!

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    Originally posted by RICHARD
    actually, i am glad that eddie has clawed the hell outta my recliner (it's the only thing he sharpens his claws on.....) the dang thing is 15 years old and i want a new one!
    Shhhh....don't give away the secret....
    ...RIP, our sweet Gini...

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    Originally posted by RICHARD


    actually, i am glad that eddie has clawed the hell outta my recliner (it's the only thing he sharpens his claws on.....) the dang thing is 15 years old and i want a new one!



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    I definately think declawing should be BANNED!!

    I would NEVER EVER consider declawing my cat/future cats!! I'm SO relieved it's forbitten in Denmark - not that I think anyone would have it done anyway. Just imagine if someone would pull all your nails out and you would have to live without your nails for the rest of your life!!!

    If you're afraid your cat will ruin your furniture, don't get a cat!!

    I say, a cat without claws is an invalid!!!



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    Okay, I'm going to be unpopular here ...

    Hi all,

    I have chosen not to declaw Cassy and Livvy because I believe it would be cruel for them. However (here comes the unpopular part) my doctor is pushing for me to get it done. I don't believe either of them have ever hurt me on purpose, but accidently about once or twice a month I do get scratched, several times a year it's a bad scratch. I'm on medicine that makes it hard for my blood to clot and have a couple conditions that make me very slow to heal. Usually bad scratches put my health in a tailspin, as though the energy for healing that is sapping from my other conditions. Like I say, my doctor is pushing me to get the kids declawed or rehomed. I've had friends with more advanced cases who have decided they would be better off to declaw their darling vice losing them or developing worse complications for their own health. I don't believe it's simply a matter of valueing 'things over flesh and blood', there can be other considerations as well.

    I wonder if I could get Wolflady to teach me how to get SoftPaws on my kids? No scratches, however accidental, would be heavenly...
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    http://maxshouse.com/Truth%20About%20Declawing.htm

    Everyone who wants to know how this surgery works and what the risks are can look it up here.

    you can read about soft paws at http://www.softpaws.com
    I must admit however that Filou said: I'm a boy. You will never get me to paint my nails.

  14. #14
    I'm for this ban because even though I'm sure many people will still find a way to declaw if they are hell-bent upon doing so, it will make it that much harder.

    Also, by making declawing illegal, you are automatically painting the procedure in a negative light, which may help people who are unfamiliar with the numerous cons of declawing, yet who are constantly presented with it as an option by certain vets.

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    Re: Okay, I'm going to be unpopular here ...

    Originally posted by AmberLee
    ...
    I wonder if I could get Wolflady to teach me how to get SoftPaws on my kids? No scratches, however accidental, would be heavenly...
    AmberLee, how well do your kids tolerate their paws being handled?? Soft Paws may be a good first alternative. You are more than welcome to come down to my home anytime My door is always open to you, and you must meet my kids! I can show you exactly how I put the nail caps on Marius if you're interested in seeing it first-hand (uh...pawed)
    **hugs**
    Karen

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