Ms. Pelosi, Meet A,B,C,D,E,F,G and H!

[shais_mom]

I think the whole thing is ABSURD. I TOTALLY agree with whoever said she needed counseling instead of fertility drugs.
While I certainly do not think that doctors have the right to tell someone how many children they should have, this woman, who claims she got paid to have the kids should have been stopped.
One of the older children also has autism I believe. While I have nothing against people having more than 1-2 children, (its their right of course) I firmly believe in the concept of only having 2 to replace yourself and spouse, etc. (can't remember what it was called) but those people that have more than 2 children apparently are just taking up my allotment.
This woman is no different than a collector of dogs or cats, she is just choosing to have kids. Why would you want to do that to your body like that? Crazy.
This woman is no different than the local trash I see every week coming into my ER who has 5 kids but 3-5 different fathers. And is on welfare. It just cost her (US) a LOT more to have 14 kids.

[Grace]

I think the whole thing is ABSURD. I TOTALLY agree with whoever said she needed counseling instead of fertility drugs.
While I certainly do not think that doctors have the right to tell someone how many children they should have, this woman, who claims she got paid to have the kids should have been stopped.
One of the older children also has autism I believe. While I have nothing against people having more than 1-2 children, (its their right of course) I firmly believe in the concept of only having 2 to replace yourself and spouse, etc. (can't remember what it was called) but those people that have more than 2 children apparently are just taking up my allotment.
This woman is no different than a collector of dogs or cats, she is just choosing to have kids. Why would you want to do that to your body like that? Crazy.
This woman is no different than the local trash I see every week coming into my ER who has 5 kids but 3-5 different fathers. And is on welfare. It just cost her (US) a LOT more to have 14 kids.

Oh boy, do I agree with you!! And that concept of only replacing ones self - Zero Population Growth.

[sasvermont]

We cannot dictate how many children one wants or bring into this world. Not yet, anyway!

Do I think this woman will be a good mother? Who knows at this point. She will need a team of people to help with taking care of the infants.

I just read (not necessarily true) on the INTERNET news (Goggle) web site, that she has hope in getting $2,000,000 in TV, book deals. I think they should make her payoff her hospital bill straight off, then set up trust funds for the dozen + kids.

Does anyone know what religion she affiliates herself with, if any?

I, too, think she needs a good deal of mental health counseling.

FYI:
Several factors contribute to the development of a multiple pregnancy:

Heredity: A history of multiple births on a woman's side of the family increases her chances of having a multiple pregnancy.

Race: Women of African descent are the most likely to have multiple pregnancies.

Number of prior pregnancies: Having more than one previous pregnancy, especially a multiple pregnancy, increases the chance of having a multiple pregnancy.

Delayed childbearing: Older women who get pregnant are more likely to have multiples.

Infertility treatment: Fertility drugs, which stimulate the ovaries to release multiple eggs, or assisted reproductive technology (ART), which transfers multiple embryos into the womb (such as in vitro fertilization, or IVF), greatly increase a woman's chance of having a multiple pregnancy.

It's the last two factors that have been on the rise in the last couple of decades and are probably responsible for the increase in multiple births.


I guess I would not care much about this if I thought she and her parents could afford to keep these children healthy and alive. I DO resent that she is not paying for the delivery of these children, as far as I know. I heard an early report that the initial cost of each child to be in intensive care for the first few weeks would be at least $300,000 (each). You do the math.

I didn't read all the earlier posts, so please forgive me if I repeated what someone else has already posted.

One more time, I do not agree with her having all these children, but she did. Also, I suspect she medicated to increase the egg fertility, dropping way more egss than would have been implanted if she did the IVF routine. I just cannot imagine any doctor implanting that many embryos.

[Grace]

She had started a new thread about this topic. Karen merged that thread into this one.

I had no idea. Is there notification when that happens?

[Moesha]

I had no idea. Is there notification when that happens?

I don't think so. I only knew it because I had seen her thread and posted a link pointing to this one. Karen let me know that she had deleted my post when she merged D&D's post with this thread. It does look funny if you are reading along and then see her post asking about opinions about the topic being discussed. I just thought I'd clarify why it was there.

[JenBKR]

Ya know, I don't necessarily think that we should have a 'limit' to the amount of kids people have, but honestly sometimes I think that people should have to take some kind of test before they are allowed to have kids. Between this loon, and all of the other threads in the doghouse right now about people killing their kids.....ugh

[JenBKR]

Wow - just disgusting. The idiot doctor(s) who kept giving her IVF should have to foot the bill.

I can't imagine having to take care of 14 children. Not just financially, the day to day work that goes into caring for children. She sounds like a nutcase to me - and she's studying to be a counselor!

[Grace]

Now she's looking for the gravy train.

Octuplets' Mom Wants $2 Million From Oprah, Media Deals
Monday , February 02, 2009


The mother of octuplets born in California last week is seeking $2 million from media interviews and commercial endorsements to help pay the costs of raising the children, the Times of London reported.

Nadya Suleman, 33, plans a career as a television childcare expert. It was learned last week that she already had six children before giving birth to eight more. She now has 14 children younger than 8 years old.

Although still confined to a Los Angeles hospital bed, Suleman reportedly intends to talk to two influential television hosts this week — media mogul Oprah Winfrey and Diane Sawyer.

Her family has told agents she needs cash from media deals.

Suleman is being deluged with offers for book deals, TV shows and other business proposals, but according to her publicist she hasn't decided what she might do once she leaves the hospital.

On Friday she retained the Killeen Furtney Group public relations firm to handle what company President Joann Killeen says are hundreds of offers arriving daily. They include requests for paid interviews, TV show appearances, book deals and other opportunities.

Killeen says Suleman is "the most sought after mom in the world right now," but she hasn't decided what she'll do next, other than care for her children.

But Suleman's earning power could be diminished by the growing ethical and medical controversies surrounding her octuplets' birth. Experts believe that the unnamed fertility specialists who gave her in vitro fertilization (IVF) should not have implanted so many embryos, and in choosing to carry all eight to term, Suleman ignored guidelines, risking both the babies' health and her own.

Public reaction has been mixed: Many have asked how an unemployed single mother can raise 14 children, as her first six have already strained the family budget. Angela and Ed Suleman, Nadya’s parents, bought her a two-bedroom bungalow in the Los Angeles suburb of Whittier in March 2007, but soon fell on hard times and had to leave their own home.

[pomtzu]

Now she's looking for the gravy train.

Gee - isn't that a surprise???

And she plans a career as a t.v. childcare expert???? LMAO!!! Is this woman for real????

[moosmom]

Anyone care to comment on this unemployed idiot and her 14 illegitimate children???

Selfish and inconsiderate. I feel bad for her Mom. Her mother actually went to the doctor and begged him not to do this. She's living on a $50,000 student loan (she's not going to school) (how ya gonna pay that kinda money back with no job??) and doesn't consider food stamps as aid. Only a temporary thing. Her six kids at home have medical problems. I feel VERY sorry for the residents of the State of California.

Personally, I think those babies need DCF help.

Oh yeah, and now she's got a website up asking for DONATIONS!!!!

What Chudzpah!!

[Daisy and Delilah]

Donna, there's another thread about this under the "Ms. Pelosi" heading.

This woman is a piece of work. It seems she's spent alot of time on getting herself dolled up and prepared for all the money she wants to haul in. Too bad she doesn't seem to have time to act like a mother and be a little humble for what's just happened.

This has to be one of the craziest things I've ever heard about. I'm flabbergasted every time I hear more about it. I really believe this woman planned this thing from the beginning for her own welfare. Maybe the children should be taken away from her because I think she's a certified wacko.

[Sirrahsim]

A lot of student loans are cancelled in the event of the death of the "student". I have heard that more people than you might think just plan to make minimum payments all their lives and have no real plan to actually pay back the full amount.

I agree that DCF should be involved.

[RICHARD]

NO, The California Idiot is right here.


You are thinking about OCTOMOM!

[Taz_Zoee]

She is getting exactly what she wanted. Publicity and $$$$. I wonder how much 20/20 paid her for the first interview with her? It's just SICK!!!

Oh, and I thought I had heard that her mother moved out and wanted nothing to do with them.

Yeah, I heard about the website asking for donations this morning on the radio. And like the DJs said, some people will donate because if you think about it...it's not the babies fault. They didn't ask to be brought into this world (especially under these circumstances), but ultimately they would be the ones to suffer without help. It's just a sad stupid tragedy. And I would hope that doctor(s) would lose their practice.

[Laura's Babies]

This discussion was on Dr. Phil yesterday and this is what they said.. She had all her kids this way. She was implanted with SIX each time and most of the time she only had 1 baby, once she had twins. This time she was implanted with 8 and when the doctor realized she had 8 babies in there, selective reduction should have been done..

However, they were mostly angry and blamed the doctor for ever implanting her anyway given that she already had 6, no job, no income or means of support and seems to have mental problems. Just lookimng at her income level, he should have refused. Just looking at the fact that she already have 6, he should have refused.

Someone from the Dr. Phil show went into the home with a camera and they already have kids stacked everywhere in there. There is NO room in that house for more kids.. Dr Phil said one thing she never considered was that they could take all those kids away from her and that is what he thinks needs to be done.. I agree.. Forget the cost of taking cost of all of them for a minute.. How many people is it going to take to feed those babies in one day, to change the diapers, to bathe them. How does she plan to keep up with the laundry? it will take more than 2 people, that is for sure!

I think they said she already has 2 special need kids at home and they expect that several of these will be special needs. She just will not be able to do it without tons of help. Who does she think is going to help?