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[JenBKR]

With the divorce rate at around 50%, I think that 'traditional' marriage is gone anyway....why should the government get to decide who should be allowed to marry?


I am not familiar with prop 4...will have to check on that one.

[popcornbird]

Gay 'marriage' is not marriage. It never has been, and it never will be, even if the law states that it is. Marriage has always been between a man and a woman. That's what marriage is!! Man + Woman...that's IT.

If people want to do weird/gross things in their lives or in their homes, and the government IS giving them rights, well, they have nothing to complain about. My question is this. Why do THEY want to call their 'union' a MARRIAGE when it is NOT? Why do they call it a fundamental RIGHT??? when it is not? Jeez. And they compare it to races...that's the most hilarious part about it.

Marriage is marriage. A contract of union between a man and a woman. That is it. That's how it was since the creation of mankind and that's what it means. They can call their 'union' whatever they want, but the reality is, it isn't marriage.

I registered to vote this year JUST to vote YES on prop 8, and many, many people have done the same. This is actually more important for me than the presidential elections because I'm not really impressed by either candidate. I care for Prop 8, and Prop 2 (the animal rights one), and am voting a big YES to both of them. Prop 8 isn't about taking 'rights' away from anyone. Its about preserving marriage as what it IS, preserving family as what it IS, and protecting parents rights over their children. Do you folks know that in Massachusetts, a father was taken to jail just because he didn't want the school teaching his 5 year old child about same sex marriage? Now THAT is a violation of rights. The government has no right to prevent people from raising their own children with the moral values and ethics they decide. Besides, who teaches a 5 year old about adult relationships anyway? A 5 year old is far too young to even know about normal male/female relationships. These schools/teachers have some serious issues. I would never raise my children in such an abnormal environment, with such abnormal teachings. 'The King and the King'...What a joke of a book. All they want to do is brainwash kids from the time when they're too young to understand anything or form an opinion.

Funny how every other thing becomes a 'fundamental right' these days...even things that are abnormal and wrong, from a moral/ethical point of view, scientifically speaking, and in all religious values.

What's wrong is wrong. Wrong will never be right. The problem is when you hear a lie so many times, you start thinking its the truth. Marriage has never been about party 1 and party 2. It has always been between bride and groom, and should always be that way. That's what marriage is. It isn't anything else.

This should not even be an issue. Sometimes I wonder who was the idiot who even came up with the idea about making marriage between a man and a man or a woman and a woman. Its just sooo messed up. It isn't marriage!!!

Sorry about going so long, but I feel very strongly about this issue. I'm disgusted by the behavior of the 'no to prop 8' people, stealing yes to prop 8 signs from everywhere. They're the ones who are taking peoples' rights away, not the other way around. This shouldn't have even been an issue, because Californians voted Yes to Prop 22 and passed it long time ago. Who were the judges to overturn the vote of the people? Rights... Next time we blink, they might be making marrying your biological sibling a right. Then when we blink again, they'll be making it legal to marry your mom! Hey, if they love each other, why not?

Some things just aren't 'RIGHTS'!!!

[caseysmom]

There are also ignorant people that think muslims are terrorists...its just not good to judge people, I would think you would realize that, its very sad that you think such hateful thoughts.

[kitten645]

"There are also ignorant people that think muslims are terrorists...its just not good to judge people, I would think you would realize that, its very sad that you think such hateful thoughts"

Amen to that. But I'm not surprised I too have to wonder "What are they scared of?" No on H8!
Claudia

[blue]

I dont have a problem with gay marriage, what I have a problem with is that married couples have more rights in some cases and more penalties in other cases then single citizens and non married couples do. Gay people want the unions sanctioned at the state or federal level to get the same rights, including the penalties that hetro couples get. One or two groups should not benifit any more then the third group does, we are all Americans and should be treated equally.

[popcornbird]

There are also ignorant people that think muslims are terrorists...its just not good to judge people, I would think you would realize that, its very sad that you think such hateful thoughts.

Nice. So now I'm ignorant for believing in reality (marriage between man and woman), and I'm also hateful for believing in reality (that only men and women are made to get married to each other). And somehow attacking me brings you some sort of satisfaction?? You think I care about what a few people think? I don't care about people who insist on what is wrong. The fact is, marriage was never about party 1 and party 2. It was always about bride and groom. It is supposed to be about bride and groom...AND, anyone who tries to teach a 5 year old child about adult relationships is seriously messed up. That's a parent's job.

As to judging people, I am not judging anyone...I am talking about marriage here....HOWEVER, if it was SO wrong to judge people who do wrong things, then we shouldn't have any judges or civil law in our society. That's what they do. JUDGE. I guess all judges are bad people then (not in my opinion, but according to your argument).

Let's not judge a man who wants to marry his sister then. And why should we judge people who have 10 wives? Its their choice. Why should we prevent moms and sons from marrying? Don't they have any rights to make their own decisions? Think rationally. This is not about rights. This is about marriage and family, and marriage and family have always had ONE meaning. That meaning should stay forever.

[Catty1]

Since the gay marriage thing stirred stuff up in Canada, I think I'll try to clarify something.

OK - man and woman alone can get married, or have a marriage (bear with me here).

A gay couple, I believe, has the right to a union that is identical - however, give it another name BESIDES "marriage".

The issue here is dictionary meaning/legal description of a union. If it's a man and woman, it's marriage. If it's man and man, or woman and woman, it is --- ?

The relationship is the same, but the word needs to be different.

I think that is what is upsetting people that are married, man and woman. The word "marriage" is special to them.

I am not really agreeing or disagreeing here...just pointing out that it is a question of terminology, not rights, and nothing to do with hate or being cruel.

Know what I mean?

[caseysmom]

I have been married for 27 years and I would have no problem sharing the word with another couple be it two men or two women, doesn't lessen my union one bit...guess my marriage is pretty secure that way.

[Alysser]

Wow, so much hate in one post. If people want to do weird and gross thing in there own home, wow do you even KNOW how rude that sounds. I understand it's not your choice but to say something about someone else's choice of being gay in that matter, wow, that's just completely rude and hateful.

[IRescue452]

I don't care what they call it, I just want the person I love the most to be able to be in a damn hospital room with me and other such rights. How is that so hard?

BTW: how is allowing a marriage between two consenting adults of any gender going to lead to the marriage between siblings and parents/children? That's a totally spereate issue that's not being brung up yet. You are being irrational.

[caseysmom]

I don't care what they call it, I just want the person I love the most to be able to be in a damn hospital room with me and other such rights. How is that so hard?

BTW: how is allowing a marriage between two consenting adults of any gender going to lead to the marriage between siblings and parents/children? That's a totally spereate issue that's not being brung up yet. You are being irrational.

Its a scare tactic.

[beeniesmom]

A similar amendment (#2) is on the ballot in Florida (about defining the word marriage between a man and a woman).

Even though I consider myself to be a Roman Catholic, I voted NO because I don't feel confortable thinking that I would have the right to judge what a person can or cannot do with thier life and who they spend it with.
I am not God, nor is anybody else on this earth so we really shouldn't even have the choice of telling people with whom they can spend thier life with.

I can understand where you are coming from popcornbird and I respect that too but religion aside, who makes the rules here? We are mere mortals.

I also voted NO because I think it really doesn't have anything to do with "gay" marriage as opposed to domestic partnerships (wheather it's a man/woman, man/man, woman/woman). If the Amendment passes, the civil rights of these people would be restricted.

As of now, it is estimated that Florida has 160 thousand domestic partnerships of which gay couples are only about 40 thousand. Why would I want to restrict someone from seeing thier loved one in a hospital in case of emergency or tell them they can't have survivor benefits when one or the other passes on, among many other things, just because they are not married or because they are gay?

[caseysmom]

On a lighter note I am excited about voting today, I can't remember the last time I felt this excited, even though California doesn't count

[RICHARD]

LOL,

Like who really cares about what goes on in someone's home?

People have made this a 'battleground' topic/amendment from the start.

I could really give a flying handshake about who, what, when and where.

Kee-rist, we get so uppity about where people park their bodies at night it makes me want to laugh and ask them about what else people Oppose/Rubberstamp.

Listen very carefully when a politician gets busted for ----------(fill in your crime of choice here). Chances are the spouse is holding down the fort while Mr. Politics is misbehaving with his constituents. And don't forget the tearful press conference with the missus and kids standing by, the admission to the ----------Clinic (insert your disease of choice here) and a triumphant return to public office. Chances are the biggest proponents of the law are sinners/FAs/liars and morons-guilty of the thing they detest the most.

Guilt, It a mind and soul cleanser!

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I have always been of the mind that the only rule should be,
"Don't push my nose into you politics, and I won't push your face into my toilet."

Be happy, pay taxes, get miserable, cheat, have a contentious divorce and drink like a fish afterwards.

Why should we care about who and why?

[MoonandBean]

On a lighter note I am excited about voting today, I can't remember the last time I felt this excited, even though California doesn't count

I found myself feeling very excited too. The lady at the election site told me to "save my ticket. This could be a historic event". I think it already is. I'm nervous too...I sure hope ________ wins!