The Real John McCain

[Karen]

Love often has nothing to do with money or power, and as beauty is simply in the eye of the beholder, you cannot say for sure who someone will find beautiful, who they'd find plain, or ugly.

I think we don't know the whole story of the break-up of John McCain's marriage to Carol, certainly not from one article. I wouldn't base my vote on any one article or source.

If the story has you curious, by all means, do more research.

[Edwina's Secretary]

It was talked about quite a bit here in Southern California. There was some difficulty getting Nancy Reagan to endorse McCain and when she did it was a very tepid endorsement.

Seems McCain's first wife worked for Nancy and is a friend of Nancy. Nancy has never forgiven McCain for the manner in which he treated his first wife.

[Catty1]

From Wikipedia on "Carol McCain"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_McCain

Early life and first marriage

Carol Shepp grew up in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.[3] She first knew John McCain while he was attending the United States Naval Academy in Annapolis from 1954 to 1958.[4] She then married one of his classmates,[4][5] Alasdair Swanson, in 1958.[6] She and her husband had two children, Douglas (born 1959) and Andrew (born 1962),[7][8] and lived in Pensacola, Florida.[6] The couple subsequently divorced in June 1964, after she sued him for infidelity.[6] Five feet eight inches in height,[9] Shepp was a successful swimwear model[1] in Philadelphia.[3]

Sued him for infidelity? And then picked another winner in THAT department....

She met McCain again the same year she divorced Alasdair (1964), and married McCain just over a year later in July 2005.

John McCain pushed to end the marriage;[17] Carol McCain was described by friends as being in shock from the developments.[17][6] The McCains stopped cohabiting in January 1980;[6] John McCain filed for a divorce in February 1980,[6] which Carol McCain accepted at that time.[17] When asked by a friend what had gone wrong, she said, "It's just one of those things."[17] The uncontested divorce became official in Fort Walton Beach, Florida on April 2, 1980.[28][6]

John McCain would later say, "My marriage's collapse was attributable to my own selfishness and immaturity more than it was to Vietnam, and I cannot escape blame by pointing a finger at the war. The blame was entirely mine."[24] Carol McCain would later say: "The breakup of our marriage was not caused by my accident or Vietnam or any of those things. I don't know that it might not have happened if John had never been gone. I attribute it more to John turning 40 and wanting to be 25 again than I do to anything else."[24] John McCain's biographer, Robert Timberg believes that "Vietnam did play a part, perhaps not the major part, but more than a walk-on."[29] According to Carol, her husband's five-year captivity in Vietnam had left him wanting to "make up for lost time,"[1] and John put it this way: "I had changed, she had changed....People who have been apart that much change."[29] Ross Perot would later say, " After he came home, he walked with a limp, she [Carol McCain] walked with a limp. So he threw her over for a poster girl with big money from Arizona [Cindy McCain, his current wife] and the rest is history." [19] Carol’s three children were initially upset with John McCain about the divorce, but later reconciled.[17]

John McCain gave Carol a settlement that included alimony, child support, houses in Virginia and Florida, and lifelong financial support for her ongoing medical treatments resulting from the 1969 automobile accident.[1] John McCain and Hensley were married on May 17, 1980.[24] Carol McCain was sued by Roberta McCain, John's mother, in 1980 for return of personal property; the suit was settled out of court in 1981.[30]

[lizbud]

I think we don't know the whole story of the break-up of John McCain's marriage to Carol, certainly not from one article. I wouldn't base my vote on any one article or source.

If the story has you curious, by all means, do more research.

I had no knowledge of any of McCain's background & did do some googling
to bring up lots of different articles on his earlier marrage after hearing
someone else bring it up in conversation. Seems he lost his friendship
with the Reagans over the way he treated Carol (first wife).

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...926,full.story

[kitten645]

"Why not go after BO's absent father, The man who spawned this wonderful, charismatic senator? "

Speaking to the DUH factor here...A wife and a father are two very different relationships What if they DID talk to Barack's father? What does that say about Barack's character? He played NO role in the actions of his father. Not true of McCain. His actions in his relationships are completely within his control. I think the back up info on Nancy Regan and other comments speak loudly of his character.

[Catty1]

As someone here already pointed out, Barack's biological father died in 1982.

Now, there might be some who SAY they could talk to him....

[jennielynn1970]

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JTL,

I am being facetious.

Blondes and Boobs are a dime a dozen out here in Cah Lee fuh nee ah. The have to show me they can think, chew gum and walk in stilleto heels before I give them a second look.

I like like all women. Especially a woman who wears leather.
She smells like a new car!

A librarian with one bun? How do you sit down?

You threat is duly noted.

Facetious, you?! No!!!!

A woman who smells like "new car"... now there is something the perfume manufacturers can take on next!! Calvin Klein's newest fragrance...

And if I only had one "bun", it would still be more than enough, lol.

[moosmom]

Jenn,

I'll be more than happy to donate one of MY buns to you.

[lizbud]

So far, I haven't found anything that would make her a good pick for VP,
just more cons than pros. She supports the shooting of wolfs from airplanes.

Hardly a "fair chase" shoot. That's not sport, that's slaughter.

http://www.slate.com/id/2199140/

[sparks19]

amazing how the same story can be told so many different ways

http://www.adn.com/wildlife/story/491012.html

[lizbud]

They shot the wolfs to protect the "game" hunters who want to shoot
them for themselves. Don't they have grocery stores in Alaska?

[RICHARD]

They shot the wolfs to protect the "game" hunters who want to shoot
them for themselves. Don't they have grocery stores in Alaska?

Next time think about loading the kids up in the old snowmobile to grab a few tacos from Jack in the (ice) Box?

I kid, I kid.

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K645,

Great points about control of choices. So.......can we say the Palin had 'no control' over her daughter's choices?


The Nancy Reagan dislike of JM is partly because of the "good old girls" network. Women will side with their GFs in that situation.

[sparks19]

They shot the wolfs to protect the "game" hunters who want to shoot
them for themselves. Don't they have grocery stores in Alaska?

Depending which article you read. they shot them for the hunters or they shot them because the herd was "endangered" for some reason. depends who's writing it and what spin they want to put on it. I suspect we won't ever know the REAL reason.

As for grocery stores in Alaska... depending where you live?! not always. they can be far away and the weather can get really hazardous. I'd rather know I had a freezer full of moose meat than have to go to the grocery store and realize I can't get there and if they go to the grocery store then they are buying meat from cattle who were likely kept in horrid conditions and then slaughtered inhumanely. Rock and a hard place I guess.

[Edwina's Secretary]

The Nancy Reagan dislike of JM is partly because of the "good old girls" network. Women will side with their GFs in that situation.

Really? And do the "good old boys" network men side with their BFs?

How does that explain Ronnie?

And Iam curious...did Nancy tell you that is why?