How long must I suffer?

[DrKym]

Jen I do understand, I have been there also. Just know you are being sent lots and lots of love and prayers from here. Whatever you decide I personally will support you and I am certain many other rescuers will also. There is a point where enough is enough and burnout happens. Seems to me, as with Kitties I have dealt with you are reaching that point....no matter what DO NOT BLAME yourself!


Love
Kym

[phesina]

Love and prayers are coming from us too. We all hope you will find an answer that solves the problem for both you and the cats.

I think that's a great suggestion of Candace's to get in touch with Nancy, after all the help she provided for Laura and Boo. Whatever you decide to do, we wish all of you the best.

God bless, hugs, and purrs,

Pat and cats

[jenluckenbach]

I thank you all for the support. Here are some of my thoughts.

I KNOW some of the reasons they spray. Maybe I do not know them all, and I suppose someone like Nancy might be able to help. But if the reasons are what I believe them to be, then there is no way for me to prevent the "jealousy".

I also have been considering the fact, that just like with us humans on an anti-depressant, one medication that used to work can fail after "x" amount of months/years. So, with that thought, hopefully a new medicine can help the situation.

I would never rehome a know sprayer, I simply could not guarrentee that once in a new environment, that the spraying would stop. I could not dump my problem on anyone and live the rest of my life wondering "what if" the cat would start to ruin their home.

So for now, I will vent my frustrations. But one day, there may not be such a good outcome.

Thank you again.

[Catty1]

Jen - if you check Laura's thread, you will see that she had a pretty good idea why Boo was being so ornery...but after Nancy made a connection with Boo, things changed very much for the better. It seems like Boo finally felt she had been "heard" - and that seems to have made the difference.

Maybe that's all your guys need.

I know you have spent money on meds and sheets and all kinds of stuff, some has worked for a bit, some hasn't.

Some more dollars on what seems to have worked consistently well for people here might be worth a try. For your sake as much as the cats'.

Just think about it, okay?

hugs

[jenluckenbach]

Her response (which was almost immediate) was
hi jen,
i charge 30 per animal. bascially, i can give you a very good idea of what is going through your cat's head. keep in mind that many times, unwanted behavior cannot be changed but can be explained. you send me a picture and any questions(please do not give info regarding your cat), cat's name and your phone number. i will call you halfway through the reading and then again when i am finished. (as long as you live in the united states).
take care,
nancy


My question to anyone who had a reading done is Did she CALL you?

Also, $30 is do-able, but multiply that by 3 cats (and maybe more) and I am not willing to spend that, sorry.

[slick]

Jen: I had Max read by Nancy but that was a year or two ago and the charge was $25 and because she didn't have a good LD plan to Canada, I called her because I can call anywhere in the States for 25 cents per call no matter how long the call lasts. We set up a time through email. Each call was at least an hour long.

Honestly, if you can swing it, do it! You will be so glad you did. Nancy is a marvel and I've recommended her to many other people. Also, I didn't have to mail her the money until after the reading was all done...kind of like the honour system. When complete, she sent me a followup email with everything she read from Max. Heck, even RB Speckles joined in on the conversation.

I would use her again in a heartbeat. Oh yes, and there was about a week and a bit between the first phone call and the second one.

Good luck and {{{hugs}}}

[DrKym]

Her response (which was almost immediate) was
hi jen,
i charge 30 per animal. bascially, i can give you a very good idea of what is going through your cat's head. keep in mind that many times, unwanted behavior cannot be changed but can be explained. you send me a picture and any questions(please do not give info regarding your cat), cat's name and your phone number. i will call you halfway through the reading and then again when i am finished. (as long as you live in the united states).
take care,
nancy


My question to anyone who had a reading done is Did she CALL you?

Also, $30 is do-able, but multiply that by 3 cats (and maybe more) and I am not willing to spend that, sorry.

Jen i would be willing to kick in for it.

[jenluckenbach]

Jen i would be willing to kick in for it.

Thanks, but no. It's silly. It isn't a matter of life or death.

Besides, as she herself states, we might find out WHY, but that doesn't mean the behavior will CHANGE!

[Catty1]

JEN - you know your friends here will pitch in to help! I don't recall if she will do a single price for three cats, but heck - this is MAJOR stress on you and you are a fabulous foster mom! And Boo's behaviour DID change.

You only need to read the first post or two in these links.

Check these links from Laura's Babies: Nancy DOES call back!

http://petoftheday.com/talk/showthread.php?t=134159

http://petoftheday.com/talk/showthread.php?t=134006

http://petoftheday.com/talk/showthread.php?t=134318

http://petoftheday.com/talk/showthread.php?t=134552

[Catty1]

Just a few more:

Kfamr:
http://www.petoftheday.com/talk/show...ht=kiara+nancy

http://petoftheday.com/talk/showthre...t=Nancy+Efrusy (SEE POST #9 on this one)

HUGS!

(and just PM a paypal addy to me or Kym...we won't tell! It may not be life and death - but it sure is QUALITY of life).

[DrKym]

I agree! Jen believe me I know where you are at with this, and even if it doesn't fix it for you.........maybe you will get info on where they need/want to be? Just cause they spray there may NOT mean it will be that way somewhere else...... Just a thought.

Love
Kym

[Medusa]

Jen, you owe it to yourself to at least give it a try. Granted, it may not change the behavior but then again, it just may. It would improve the quality of life for your cats and more importantly, for you. People first. Some may not agree w/my people first philosophy but if it wasn't for you, your cats wouldn't have the wonderful home that they do have and your fosters wouldn't stand a chance. You won't be able to continue like this indefinitely; your home will become unlivable. It's the last line of your post that got to me: one day, there may not be such a good outcome. You're feeling the squeeze and no one doubts for one second how much you love your cats, fosters included, but you have to love yourself more. Several PTers have offered to help you w/the cost of a reading w/Nancy, so that objection doesn't hold water now. (Sorry, couldn't resist it.) And it isn't silly if it helps to resolve the problem. Give it a whirl. You've got nothing to lose and everything to gain.

[krazyaboutkatz]

Jen, when I had all of my cats read by Nancy, she just did a general reading on them and she only charged me $60 so that's only $10 per cat. Since she's 3 hours ahead of me, we had to schedule a time for her to call me. She was only able to do some of the cats in one call so she called me a second time. Now I know a lot more about what's going on with my cats. She wasn't really able to help me with Starr's medical problems though. Just explain your situation and see if she'll give you a multiple cat discount. It's worth a try. Good luck.

[jenluckenbach]

Just cause they spray there may NOT mean it will be that way somewhere else...... Just a thought.

Love
Kym

While this is true, I just don't think I could force myself to take that chance. I would simply HATE if it started (the spraying) at their new homes, I would feel responsible.

And to top it all off, Biddy White Whiskers just peed on a pile of clothes I left on the floor last night. I know that his is medical, as we have been working with urine issues for a while now, but nothing is getting his urine back to normal. It is frustrating that he might be in some discomfort, but the special food and the medicine are still not helping 100%.

[Pawsitive Thinking]

Oh you poor thing - you must be exhausted

Part of the reason we have our animals is because of the pleasure they give us and it doesn't sound like you are getting much of that. I do hope things improve - we are all here to listen and support you