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[wombat2u2004]

I have no clue what "true patriot" means

I've noticed.

[lady_zana]

I've noticed.

A "true patriot" comes in many forms - promoting peace does not make you NOT a true patriot.

The idea that one can only be a "true patriot" by supporting this war is the idea that has kept many people from voicing their opinions against the war.

Like I said, a true patriot means different things to different people but this is my idea of a true patriot - Someone who loves their country and loves it enough to want what's best for it and the people living there, even if it means NOT supporting the government in every action they take.

[wombat2u2004]

A "true patriot" comes in many forms - promoting peace does not make you NOT a true patriot.

The idea that one can only be a "true patriot" by supporting this war is the idea that has kept many people from voicing their opinions against the war.

Like I said, a true patriot means different things to different people but this is my idea of a true patriot - Someone who loves their country and loves it enough to want what's best for it and the people living there, even if it means NOT supporting the government in every action they take.

That is very good.
And I believe that my friend is a true patriot, by his own actions. because he does love his country, and he believes he is doing his best for the country, by objecting strongly and vocally about what he believes is the exploitation of his dead sons photograph submitted onto sites that promote peace.
He knows his son, and he knows his son would object if the situation were reversed. These people are the true patriots in my eyes, not people who blurp off how great they are on a daily basis and would have one believe that patriotism is reading the obituaries on Sunday morning over croissants and orange juice !!!!!
Wom

[Edwina's Secretary]

would have one believe that patriotism is reading the obituaries on Sunday morning over croissants and orange juice !!!!!
Wom

I suspect patriotism comes, like idiocy, in many forms. I am glad you don't speak ill of me again as I can't drink orange juice.

Back to the ignore function!

[Edwina's Secretary]

I read of this family...I guess some people would call them "not true patriots" as they have spoken to the media...

Patriots?

[Cataholic]

How can anyone lump together what any one family that has lost a child in this war would/does want after the death?

So, if I speak out, vocally, after I have lost my son to war, I am not a patriot? Frankly, I think I am nearly given a 'free pass' to any claim of patriotism.

[Edwina's Secretary]

How can anyone lump together what any one family that has lost a child in this war would/does want after the death?

So, if I speak out, vocally, after I have lost my son to war, I am not a patriot? Frankly, I think I am nearly given a 'free pass' to any claim of patriotism.

Right you are Cataholic....patriotism is a very personal thing...that I am not sure can or should be measured....

and since what I eat for my Sunday breakfast seems to be way off topic....

back on thread...should the government censor reporting of war casualty?

[lizbud]

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back on thread...should the government censor reporting of war casualty?

Should they? NO........... Do they? yes and it's not fooling anybody.

[crow_noir]

I'm glad everyone has agreed to get back on topic. I was about to ask Karen to close this thread. The petty bickering was giving me a headache. *chuckle*