Equality.....yeah right

[Marigold2]

Having equal rights comes from being equal, in education, intelligence, wealth, jobs etc. If woman want to be treated equally we need to step up to the plate and make ourselves heard. Staying home and having babies might be lovely and sweet but it's not what makes us equal. Earning money is what makes us equal. No money, no power. If a man is the breadwinner and he wants to throw you butt out on the street he can do so. Every woman should be able to support herself and her kids alone. This way if something happens, death, divorce she doesn't have to reley on a man to help.

[RICHARD]

Honest to God...


I was a scheduler for the General Surgery Dept. of a large hospital/HMO.

There was a MFN little turd who refused to do surgery on a FRIDAY AFTERNOON...

The other doc, who was in charge of ALL the surgeons told me to book him until 5:30 on a Friday afternoon.....

I did, He complained and I had to cancel all the operations so he could leave early and party with his girlfriend.

I always wondered what his wife would have said.....

[Pawsitive Thinking]

Now now BM.....you wouldn't have got that 20 quid if not for the actions of the boys....yes ????
So I feel it's only fair that you should share it with them !!!!!
Wom

Of course, you are quite right Wom. What was I thinking???

[Marigold2]

As to what his wife thought. She was probably glad he wasn't home much so she could do her shopping at Macy's, Nordstorm, Gucci, Prada and of course meet her boyfriend for lunch.

Honest to God...


I was a scheduler for the General Surgery Dept. of a large hospital/HMO.

There was a MFN little turd who refused to do surgery on a FRIDAY AFTERNOON...

The other doc, who was in charge of ALL the surgeons told me to book him until 5:30 on a Friday afternoon.....

I did, He complained and I had to cancel all the operations so he could leave early and party with his girlfriend.

I always wondered what his wife would have said.....

[wombat2u2004]

As to what his wife thought. She was probably glad he wasn't home much so she could do her shopping at Macy's, Nordstorm, Gucci, Prada and of course meet her boyfriend for lunch.

I wouldn't give her any money....that'd teach her !!!!!
Wom

[Twisterdog]

I'd consider it a blessing ... a peaceful afternoon with the office all to yourselves!

[Cataholic]

Having equal rights comes from being equal, in education, intelligence, wealth, jobs etc. If woman want to be treated equally we need to step up to the plate and make ourselves heard. Staying home and having babies might be lovely and sweet but it's not what makes us equal. Earning money is what makes us equal. No money, no power. If a man is the breadwinner and he wants to throw you butt out on the street he can do so. Every woman should be able to support herself and her kids alone. This way if something happens, death, divorce she doesn't have to reley on a man to help.

While in some respects, I can see your point, in general, I find this post to be offensive to me as a woman, and especially, as a mother.

Earning money might, in your opinion, make us equal (though I do disagree), but, to continue to push this "money equates power" theory undermines not only parenting our children, but, any career in which money is not the driving force. Social services, education, child care careers immediately come to mind. And, then, there is the whole economic class argument to ponder: I make more money than you, therefore, I must be better than you. (I am stating this in the generic sense, not personally).

I am all for women obtaining education, a skill set, and a marriage, if that is what they so choose. But, linking equality to money is not the theory I buy into.

[lbaker]

Earning the same amount of money does NOT make us equal to each other. Having the same or equally admirable qualities as a person may. That is up to each individual to figure out for themselves. How do we treat and show repect toward others? How do we wish to be treated and respected ourselves? Is that such a difficult concept?

[lizbud]

Every woman should be able to support herself and her kids alone. This way if something happens, death, divorce she doesn't have to reley on a man to help.

I absolutely agree with this statement. We might not like the world
to be this way, but the reality is, it's true. Money does equal power and
also freedom in the world as it is today.

[mina'smomma]

At least they compensate you for your time. I put in for my two week vacation in April for the end of June because if I go any later in the summer I'll be too far along in my pregnancy to enjoy the trip to NY, and it wasn't until two weeks ago it was denied. Reason was because of supposed new work hours. New work hours one day a week our office is open until 7:00 p.m. Real reason boss wanted to take a few days off while I would of been gone. So guess who doesn't get a vacation this year.

[Cataholic]

I absolutely agree with this statement. We might not like the world
to be this way, but the reality is, it's true. Money does equal power and
also freedom in the world as it is today.

Maybe it is quibbling, Liz, but, her statement was that money makes us 'equal'.

Your statment that money equals power is different. Having more often makes us more powerful (whether that is right or wrong is another story), but, I would never agree that money makes us "equal".

Equality was about equal opportunity....not making us the same person as another. That would be impossible.

[lizbud]

At least they compensate you for your time. I put in for my two week vacation in April for the end of June because if I go any later in the summer I'll be too far along in my pregnancy to enjoy the trip to NY, and it wasn't until two weeks ago it was denied. Reason was because of supposed new work hours. New work hours one day a week our office is open until 7:00 p.m. Real reason boss wanted to take a few days off while I would of been gone. So guess who doesn't get a vacation this year.

They don't call them "BOSS" for nothing. That sucks. Can't you take
a vacation at a different time?

[lizbud]

Cataholic,

Have you heard of this book called "The Feminine Mistake" ?

It should be a must read for young women today. We can never have too
much information.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/books/r...-mistake_N.htm

[mina'smomma]

They don't call them "BOSS" for nothing. That sucks. Can't you take
a vacation at a different time?

Not really because by the time the baby gets here he'll be taking off for hunting season and then I'll be on maternity leave for about eight weeks and to take it before the baby gets here will be too miserable for us. I would have roughly a three month time spand between maternity and my anniversary date to take 18 days and it happens to fall during our busiest time of year.

[Cataholic]

Cataholic,

Have you heard of this book called "The Feminine Mistake" ?

It should be a must read for young women today. We can never have too
much information.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/books/r...-mistake_N.htm

LB- I had heard of it, from another board I frequent. But, I haven't read it, I confess. I truly have mixed emotions about motherhood and 'careers', something I did not have pre-J. The best of both worlds seems nearly mythical. I work because I have to now. My choice would be to stay at home with J. Every day. But, that isn't the card I am dealt.

But, I do believe (and I feel Cathy B ready to hunt me down and skin me alive any moment) that women deserve- yes, deserve- some special incentive when it comes to bearing children/raising children during that early period. I think a year long, paid by someone ( I don't know who) maternity (or paternity) leave should be a requirement.

I think there are plenty of hidden, disciminatory practices in place for mothers. (I guess most discriminatory practices are hidden, aren't they?). I think lots of things now that I didn't think.

But, none of this really addresses your question about the book. I should read it. I will make it a point to track it down at the L, or, purchase it online.