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    Quote Originally Posted by catnapper

    How consistent were you twith ignoring? It works, only if you're 100% consistent. When people tell me it didn't work I'm very leery that they actually tried it. NO ATTENTION.... ignore EVERYTHING. No eye contact, no touching, no talking. Nothing!

    I agree.The ignore method works, but it takes time. It doesn't happen
    in a day or a week. Time, repetition and consistancy. Try for 2, 3 weeks
    and see how it goes then.
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  2. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Nobas Mom
    Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I've tried the ignoring part and it doesn't work, it frustrates him so he continues and continues and continues. I have an issue with the backward "dancing" with him, as he has hip dysplasia, so we try not to put too much pressure on his hips... although jumping you would think would hurt... lol... The knee to the ribcage lightly thing doesn't phase him. He's a hound, stubborn through and through... true to their nature!

    Anyway, anymore suggestions would be great... I am willing to try anything at this point!!!
    I like that you mentioned that he continues and continues and continues. Yes he does! You bet! Most of them do. But, as you'll see below, if you continue to be consistant, the method will work.

    What happens whenever you use the ignore technique on any attention-getting behavior, whether it be jumping or pawing or barking or whatever - you'll run into what's called the "extinction burst." The extinction burst is where the behavior actually gets WORSE before it gets better (or becomes extinct). Why? Well, the dog always got attention with this behavior before, so the first thing the dog tries when you're ignoring him is to do even more jumping. Shoot. It always worked before! If you give into him and turn around and say even, "No!", what have you done? You've given your dog the attention it wants - even the negative attention! It will make it that much more difficult to extinct the behavior.

    Stick to your guns. Wait the extinction burst out. It may take several weeks. Over time, you will see improvement.

    Also, I don't see any problems trying Applesmom's suggestion, if you'd like.

    However, the knee to the chest is very old and very dangerous advice. Dogs have died with that method. Sure it works. It you hit me in the chest for jumping, I'd quit, too. I'd also be more wary and guarded around you. And, you can fatally injure your dog. Avoid it at all costs.
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  3. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by agilityk9trainer
    I like that you mentioned that he continues and continues and continues. Yes he does! You bet! Most of them do. But, as you'll see below, if you continue to be consistant, the method will work.

    What happens whenever you use the ignore technique on any attention-getting behavior, whether it be jumping or pawing or barking or whatever - you'll run into what's called the "extinction burst." The extinction burst is where the behavior actually gets WORSE before it gets better (or becomes extinct). Why? Well, the dog always got attention with this behavior before, so the first thing the dog tries when you're ignoring him is to do even more jumping. Shoot. It always worked before! If you give into him and turn around and say even, "No!", what have you done? You've given your dog the attention it wants - even the negative attention! It will make it that much more difficult to extinct the behavior.

    Stick to your guns. Wait the extinction burst out. It may take several weeks. Over time, you will see improvement.

    Also, I don't see any problems trying Applesmom's suggestion, if you'd like.

    However, the knee to the chest is very old and very dangerous advice. Dogs have died with that method. Sure it works. It you hit me in the chest for jumping, I'd quit, too. I'd also be more wary and guarded around you. And, you can fatally injure your dog. Avoid it at all costs.

    The "extinction burst" makes alot of sense. Sure, the dog doesn't know what's going on that you're ignoring him and he tries harder. But if you do keep it up, he will eventually get the hint. It'll probably take some time but heck, time and tolerance is what it's all about. I'll have to mention this "burst" to my sister. She has a chocolate lab that is always barking to eat. He can't get enough. He's got a weight problem and the more she ignores him the more and louder he barks. Finally, she can't stand it anymore and gives in. (Just what he wanted - he won!) She told me it just doesn't work to ignore him. But I'm going to tell her about this "burst." This way she can try it again and expect this reaction - and keep it up this time!

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