World's first cloned cat has kittens

[Cataholic]

If your parent or your child or your spouse or you had terminal cancer or another fatal disease, and the only hope of survival was a cloned liver or heart or bladder, would you not want it to be available?

Yes. Yes. Yes. To think of all the suffering we could stop in this world.

[molucass]

(they cloned a 6 year old sheep, and surprise!, they got a lamb with 6 year old genes)

So what you are saying is, that genetically the lamb was 12 years old, since she was put to sleep when she was 6 years old?

Well then, if thats what you are saying.. There's no wonder she was having those problems at "such a young age". When most don't show it until they are 10 years.

[lvpets2002]

Thank you Michelle.. It just makes me sick with all the sickness we have out there That all these Lab Rats can do is too Clone Everything.. Also dont we Have Enough Wittle FurrPurr Babies out there begging for homes.. Oh Great this happened in Texas & none other than Tx AM

And once again we have idiots playing God.

I don't even want to get into all the things I could say about this.

[Lady's Human]

So you're willing to swear off any medical cures found through this research?

[Giselle]

So what you are saying is, that genetically the lamb was 12 years old, since she was put to sleep when she was 6 years old?

Well then, if thats what you are saying.. There's no wonder she was having those problems at "such a young age". When most don't show it until they are 10 years.

Nope. It's not that simple at all. When Dolly was 2 years, the telomeres (caps that stabilize cells and diminish with age) in some of her cells were comparable to that of a 6 year old, the age of her donor. But if you think about it like 6+2, I guess that would "work" to a certain extent. Still, 8 years is far from the average 10 years.

Indeed, cloning has come a long way, but a seemingly simple process is still turning out to be filled with obstacles and barriers. IMO, the most foolproof way to tell the genetic health is to wait for it to die and check out its longevity/health. =/

[#1Wolflover]

So you're willing to swear off any medical cures found through this research?

then if its sooooooo important why don't people try it on themselves? let me guess safety precautions?

[Giselle]

then if its sooooooo important why don't people try it on themselves? let me guess safety precautions?

Hee hee. The debate over *human* cloning is even greater than animal cloning. Besides, you'll be hard pressed to further human therapeutic cloning with the current government funding and aged stem cell lines.

[Lady's Human]

Cloning and stem cell research are two different areas of science. While they interrelate to a point, they are not identical.

[Giselle]

True, but they can both be generated to form human organs, which was the broader question that #1Wolflover was asking. But, you're right. Stem cell research is not cloning. However, the general criticism over human cloning and stem cell research can be applied to the whole "why we don't do it on ourselves" issue.

[Twisterdog]

That depends, would the organ be cloned inside a clone of that ill person, or cloned in and of itself without life being created to sustain it? IF said part came from a clone of a person, such as a whole cloned person, then my answer is no, I wouldn't want it, because I don't beleive we have the right to create a whole life and snuff it out for our own selfish needs. IF the parts could be cloned individually, without creating a whole other life to sustain it, then I wouldn't have an issue with using it.

I do not think that would EVER happen ... cloning a person then killing him/her to harvest an organ. I do not think that is something we will EVER have to worry about.

[wombat2u2004]

Makes one think that a movie like "Blade Runner" could end up a true story !!!!

[Luvin Labs]

Makes one think that a movie like "Blade Runner" could end up a true story !!!!

Or the newer similar version "The Island"...

[Vela]

I do not think that would EVER happen ... cloning a person then killing him/her to harvest an organ. I do not think that is something we will EVER have to worry about.

Never say never. You just never know. I would also like to think that wouldn't happen, but I'm not going to go so far as to say it isn't possible people decide to do it. There have been many people throughout history who would very well do such as thing as that, so I don't have any trouble thiking there woulnd't be others out there that would/could/will do it too. Hopefully not, but I would have to say if someone did it wouldn't surprise me in the least. People kill others every day with abortions, which happens to be perfectly legal, with partial birth abortions performed after 20 weeks (5+ months pregnant), where they birth everything but the head, so they can't say it's "alive", then stab scissors into the baby's brain to kill it and suck out it's brain with a suction catheter. Yes it's morbid and disgusting, but lots of people seem just fine with doing that. Four more inches of birth for that baby and it would be consdiered murder in any state...some of those babies they do it to are 6 months and OLDER in the womb, and could and most often WOULD live outside the womb. There are so many things wrong with that that it is easily possible for me to see them doing such to harvest organs. If people are capable of doing partial birth abortions, because someone was irresponsible and now doesn't want a baby, then they are capable of almost anything.

[Sevaede]

If people are capable of doing partial birth abortions, because someone was irresponsible and now doesn't want a baby, then they are capable of almost anything.

Rape victims are irresponsible? What about all the children born into abusive homes? Not trying to argue, just curious!

[Lady's Human]

Somehow I think Vela was referring to abortions where rape or incest aren't factors. (Which are the vast majority of abortions)