Ligers

[Argranade]

Yet more retards have cross breed animals, oh well nothing I can do about it .. sure is a HUGE animal but I think the people should be smart enough to seperate the Tigers & Lions, oh wait they probably needed the attention.

http://www.tigers-animal-actors.com/...ger/liger.html

[Chilli]

Crossing lions with tigers isn't anything new.
I met this one a few years ago at a wildlife refuge.

[junescrater716]

I see nothing wrong with it. Ligers are beautiful creatures. They're more intelligent, more aggressive (which isn't very good but at least they can survive better), and like I said before beautiful!!!

[TFTpwnsYou]

A Liger is pretty much my favorite animal...with preferred skills in majic.

[Argranade]

Of course there beautiful animals but it's not normal,

It's weird how some looders think it's NOT ok to cross dogs then it's actualy ok to cross lion's & tigers, I think if it was a mistake that would be ok but if there doing it on purpose then that's just plain wrong.

So if someone put a dalmation and pug in the same cage and they breed & the person forgot there was a male and female, I geuss that would be a mistake too huh ...

[Pembroke_Corgi]

My issue with the link you provided isn't necessarily that the animal is a liger, but because the poor thing has a chain on it's neck. I don't think wild animals belong in any kind of circus act. It's upsetting for the animal and dangerous for the handler.

[sirrahved]

A Liger is pretty much my favorite animal...with preferred skills in majic.

You beat me to it

[TamanduaGirl]

It's not like tigers and lions are over populated breeds like dogs. They are also two different species, not breeds. They are better compaired to mules. Should no one ever breed mules then just because crosses shouldn't happen? Also tigers and lions do have cross bred in the wild in the nature reserves because their territories over lap there. It's not exactly full on wild but they are living wild in Africa. So it's not hurting anything. It's really nothing along the lines of cross bred domestics. Again it's cross species like mules or hybrid cats.

It DOES also help conservation. Most people just don't pay attention unless it's big and flashy. You'd be surprised how many people don't even know the difference between a tiger and a lion much less truly care if they survive in the wild. You see tigers and lions frequently in the media but they don't really pay attention or care. But they see something new and different and they get interested, ask questions, and learn about both species and their plight.

Second issue circuses. They are not mean and inherently cruel. You're pet is not abused by being taught tricks or doing them in front of people, agility shows, dog shows. I've even seen llama agility! In fact if you don't train your dog and interact with it it's considered neglect. Really it's the same for exotics. They get enrichment by learning and doing tricks. Even zoo animals are usually taught to do some simple things like target. You may not call it a trick but there's no real difference. The animal is being taught to do something on command.

So what is the problem? They have to travel? Lots of domestic animals have to travel too, again dogs shows, agility, just a family pet of a truck driver, petting zoo animals. Ours LOVED being in the zoo and raised traveling so they didn't mind it. They did better with it than we did. In fact the exotics were least phased by the traveling.

There's nothing wrong with a chain any more than there is with a leash ir a halter on a horse. None of those should be kept on all the time but there's nothing wrong with using them properly. Most of you in fact have exotics your cute little fish and birdies included. It's no worse for a tiger or lion born and raised in captivity than it is your fish stuck in a tank or bird in a cage. The animals get their exercise when they preform they are not working all year and have a home base that is usually very nice.

The elephants I worked around had a huge ranch they lived on and got to roam. They got their own big fancy airconditioned trailers while traveling and a special area set up at each location for them. They got breaks for food and water play time were even brought special things like up rooted stumps to play with. They weren't walking around in poop because someone was right there to catch it as it came out, HA. They were trained by giving sugar cubes. Anytime one did something they liked which included making noise they ran and gave a sugar cube. Weather on a command or not. Basicaly all they had to do was ask(trumpet) and they got a treat.

Are some performing animals abused. Sure it happens. Just like some pets are abused too. That does not mean all pets are abused or that it's abusive to own or train a pet. They enjoy the stimulation and interaction. They even enjoy the crowds. The elephants loved showing off for the crowds. After having lived around them awhile you could just tell they loved it. They were spunky and had personality. They weren't scared of their trainers.

Ligertown - yes it happened just like there are puppy mills but it not on so wide spread a scale. Really that was more like a horder case they weren't really even selling them they just collected/bred and kept and didn't know where to stop. There are still fewer big exotc incidents than there are domestic dog incidents and that is proportionately speaking too.

Road side zoo is ALL zoos as well. USDA deffinition does not make any exceptions. All zoos are by the side of a road.

As for the handler well sure it's dangerous but so is horse riding in fact pretty much all states have a law aknowlaging equestrian activities as inherintly dangerouse and so you can't sue if you get hurt. A person chooses to have or work with a large animal domestic or not and they do so knowing the risks. Like skydiving and driving. You know there are risks. People going to the shows know or should know there is some risk as well. And really you know that's why a lot of them go.

To say none one should have or bred ligers because someone abused theirs is faulty logic and to follow that no one should have dog because some abuse theirs.

If you don't want to see big cats abused or neglected then you should be against abuse not animal acts.

[wolflady]

A Liger is pretty much my favorite animal...with preferred skills in majic.

LOL LOL Just what I was thinking!

That's aaaaawesssome *snicker*