Pledge of allegiance in Orange County college

[mugsy]

Here's my thought...if you dislike the U.S. so much and other countries are so much better, then by all means, use one of your rights and LEAVE! Oy!

I think that if people don't want to say the Pledge, then it's their right (irritating as it is to me), but, don't disallow others' rights to recite it.

[IRescue452]

Mugsy, that arguement is very unprofessional and has no merit. It is based on subjective claims. Its irrational and assumes that everybody born within the political boundaries of this country has the means with which to leave. I would expect these kinds of subjective claims could be surpassed by a social studies student in the third grade. Grow up.

[RICHARD]

Mugsy, that arguement is very unprofessional and has no merit. It is based on subjective claims. Grow up.

Actually, her arguement isn't about professionalism.

It has to do with love of country, patriotism and freedom of speech.

Being the immature jerk that I am, I really should delete the thread and keep you and everyone else from speaking.....then your freedom of speech will be quelled....

It's basically a bunch of young chumps who, by running for an office that don't mean squat outside the school fences, want their little power trip to rule over their imaginary fiefdom.

INstead of trying to get and give a student body a voice in the running of the school, they have successfully stepped on the beliefs of the majority of the enrolled.

I think Mugs has a point.....Go to Venezuela, Viet Nam or any of the other countries that would welcome you with open arms, until you tried to dog the government or the education system...

You don't know what you have, until someone tries to take it away.

Buena Suerte!

[Edwina's Secretary]

Whoooosh...that was the sound of the democratic process (and sanity) leaving the room.

Let's not make a big deal over a few college students...who...using the democratic process to decide how they wanted to start a meeting.

You guys are shipping them off to Viet Nam for that????

If our system is so fragile it is threatened by this....we have REALLY big problems.

Meanwhile...relax....I really don't think the absence of the pledge of allegiance at some meeting at some little college is all that big a deal.

But what successes these young men are....they wanted attention and WOW did they get it!

Now...will everyone who never espoused a stupid idea while college age please stand up?

[caseysmom]

Irrescue has every right to be in disagreement with laws or government, she does not need to move to another country for this. In fact it is her duty to stand up for the change she thinks our country needs.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Irrescue has every right to be in disagreement with laws or government, she does not need to move to another country for this. In fact it is her duty to stand up for the change she thinks our country needs.

Bravo! Sometimes we hear people who are all for freedom of speech until some "speeches" something they don't like. Then they are told to "go and try that in some country that doesn't have freedom of speech and see if you get away with it!"

As long as they are not shouting fire in a crowded theater......

[RICHARD]

Now...will everyone who never espoused a stupid idea while college age please stand up?

That means i'll be standing up and sitting down for the next three weeks.

My stupid ideas were exactly that.....my ideas.
I didn't let them impact others and I didn't understand or realize what my place in society, let alone my politics were.

That is one thing that quite a few of the people these days do not realize.

Like the guy who wants "in god we trust" taken off the currency...



By the way......

If you don't like it, move.


There THAT stupid idea didn't hurt any one, and if you were insulted by it..

remember-

This and any other Stupid Ideas are brought to you by the Constitution of the United States.

Or

Sticks and Stones will break my bones-but stupid ideas are eternal.

As long as they are not shouting fire in a crowded theater......

If it's a Madonna or J-lo picture, I highly recommend it.

[lizbud]

Man Last time I said the pledge was back in grade school.

Can't believe people would get this upset over it. Private clubs can make
any rule they want & we're free to chose which ones you want to belong
to. The fact that this is a state supported school, does limit what you do
or say.

[Edwina's Secretary]

A Combat Controller...wearing a RED BERET...oh my gosh....

Careful what you say RICHARD...about kids in red berets....

[RICHARD]

Careful what you say RICHARD...about kids in red berets....

"Kids" who wear red berets and command c-17s usually are men...

There is a difference in earning a Beret with a flash, than picking up one at a
surplus store.