Terribly worried about my daughter and grandbaby! *UPDATE Page 3*

[Pawsitive Thinking]

OMG! At least your daughter "confessed" to you which is a good first step. Sounds like she'd be better off without her husband in the picture.

If you fear for little Jenna's safety you have every right to take whatever action you need. She needs your protection right now.

[Daisy and Delilah]

I'm so sorry to hear this Kim. You must be ready to collapse under this pressure. My heart goes out to you. I agree that someone needs to report this situation before it's too late. Some good advice has been given here. I also agree that your daughter needs to get away from this man. He sounds far too toxic and dangerous. It's easy for me to say this but not so easy to accomplish the right way. I understand completely.

I have a friend that has a sister with a very similar situation. Her daughter lived a life very much like you've described. With a young daughter in the house, she continued to hang out with the wrong crowd, use drugs, and generally ignore the fact that her child was present. My friend's sister(Grandmother of the little girl), took the child away from her daughter to save her from this life. She fought day and night, tooth and nail, until she gained custody of the child. The little girl is now a beautiful 12 year old, still living with her Grandmother, and living a wonderful, well adjusted, life. The girl's Mom finally gave up life in the fast lane, had another baby, and settled down. Bottom line....I believe you do have the rights to save Jenna from harm as her Grandmother. I don't know how your state laws work but I wish you all the best. My heart breaks for you. Please keep us updated. You'll all be in my thoughts and prayers.

I have to mention something. In the fact that your daughter is having such a hard time due to the absence in of her Dad in her life; maybe you could mention to her that she needs to take heed to that and look around to see what she's doing to her daughter by living like this. {{{{HUGS}}}}

[Pam]

I have to mention something. In the fact that your daughter is having such a hard time due to the absence in of her Dad in her life; maybe you could mention to her that she needs to take heed to that and look around to see what she's doing to her daughter by living like this. {{{{HUGS}}}}

What wise words D&D, and this last paragraph really says a lot. Kim, maybe if your daughter can see that she is following in her dad's footsteps by not being there 100% for her daughter it might wake her up. Just because a parent is there on the premises doesn't mean that they are really there for their kids, especially if they are using drugs or alcohol.

Kim I am so glad your faith is strong and I pray that God will give you peace about this as you continue to ask for His help. I can't offer advice or words of wisdom but I can pray and I will. ((((hugs))))

[catnapper]

Oh dear Kim! Things have progressed very badly since last we talked (((hugs)))

I would call child services - I know its scary but you have two lives to think of here. Your daughter isn't a lost cause, but she might very well be if she continues to stay with her wonderful husband. I know you were afraid of what they were doing in front of Jenna and now you know. If she told you one thing, might there be more that she hasn't revealed to you? Too scary to contemplate - which is why I'd call child services and make sure everyone gets the help they need to stop this destructive cycle they're on.


You know where I am if you need to talk

[Sara luvs her Tinky]

It sounds to me like your daughter was asking for help when she was confessing to you. Maybe she is wanting you to do something because she feels like she can't.

It is good you are praying... God knows the best answer... but I think i would suggest calling child services too...

I think too that if it was bad enough that they do give the children to paternal relatives... Not that it would go that far.. but it sounds like your daughter wants help...

you guys will be in my prayers!

[Maya & Inka's mommy]

Oh no Kimmie, that is so heartbreaking.... !!!
I feel so sorry for you, knowing how much you love your daugher and her little Jenna... .

Are you sure your cannot try to be the legal parents for Jenna? I am asking this, because I know of such a case. My best friend in Missouri did this with her daugher's kid. Thre were no drugs involved here, just hatred from mom to son... . If you want to know more, tell me; I will send you more info in a pm!
Tons of hugs, my dear Kim!!

[Randi]

Kim, I'm so sorry you're going through this. When I was younger, I had friends/aquintances who were taking hard drugs, two times I had to get one girl into hospital to be pumped out, or she would have died. People not knowing drug addicts just won't believe the lies they come up with to get what they want - even to their closest family.

I think your daughter is at a stage where she can be "saved" though, but she needs to stay away from the father of her child to get any further in her life! Considering her age, she is probably very easy to influence, but she needs to hang out with entirely different friends.

Here, one of the things which worked, was showing documentaries to people like your daughter, where rehabilitated drug addicts told/showed what can happen. It is shocking to watch, but it might help her see what kind of life it can lead to.

Still, I think you should call the Child Services and at least have a chat about the situation, they're there to help!

Good luck!!

[trayi52]

Kim, I am so sorry to hear this. It is so hard. I would absolutely call childrens services, and see what they can do about removing Jenna from the home and see about placing her with you for the safety of Jenna. This might wake Amy Beth up, and save her life as well! If I was closer, I would do it for you.

I will be praying very hard for you, Jenna, and Amy Beth. You really need prayers right now, and we all know that PT prayers really works. If you need to talk, you know where I am, Kim.

Hugs,
Willie

[mugsy]

Call CPS....and do it soon...your grand daughter doesn't need to be in that environment. As an educator, I can tell you the results are not good when they child lives in a drug infested environment.

Also, check your state laws on Grandparent's rights. They do exist (at least in IN). A friend of mine got custody of her grand daughter by fighting in court. It's not easy, but, she did it!

Good luck and I will send my prayers and positive energy your direction!

[Logan]

I have two friends who are raising their granddaughters as a result of their daughter's drug problems. Both have obtained legal custody, one of them has legally adopted the granddaughter. It certainly isn't what any of us planned for our "empty nest" years, but you gotta do what you gotta do. And you can only hope and pray that your daughter will see the light at some point. Jenna needs to be the priority, right now, though.

Kim, I'm sending many prayers your way, for you, for Jenna and for your daughter.

Logan

[Christiansmommy]

I am so sorry to hear this I know calling child protective services probably sounds scary to both you and Jenna. Maybe if you told her that you were going to threaten to call if she didn't hand the baby over to you for a little while (if that is possible for you), then at least the baby would be in a better circumstance for the moment and she could realize the seriousness of it all...

I hope they get the help they need, and if your daughter isn't into it as much as her husband is, which by her cofessing to you about the drugs, she sounds maybe somewhat convicted over it, then maybe she can make a good move and make some changes...I will pray for you all. ((HUGS))) Thank God for your strong faith...w/o it how could we ever get through the hurdles life throws us?!!

[Russian Blue]

I have to mention something. In the fact that your daughter is having such a hard time due to the absence in of her Dad in her life; maybe you could mention to her that she needs to take heed to that and look around to see what she's doing to her daughter by living like this.

I totally agree. Many times we place ourselves in situations without regard to our safety. But when pointed out that a child is following in your footsteps because of your actions...it may 'wake' her up a bit and get herself and her daughter into a safe environment.

Right now all you can do is call child services and make a report and see if they can offer other resources. I think you need to find a way so you can have 'control' of this situation before you fall apart in despair. By taking proactive steps (calling child services) you can place maybe one small part of your mind at ease. I'm sorry your going through this Kim - I can only imagine how upsetting and heartbreaking this is.

((( Hugs to you )))

[borzoimom]

oh dear Lord.. I can help but not on this forum. Send me a private message..

[Bengalz]

Kim,

There are so many people here ready and willing to give you all the support you need = emotionally and spiritually. You're in a tough situation and need the courage to act on it. Your daughter is clearly not able to make constructive decisions concerning herself or her child.

Although I have no solid advice to offer, you certainly have my thoughts and prayers, please take care.

Betty

[ramanth]

I have no advice, but I'm sorry this is happening to your family. *HUGS*