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  1. #1
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    When did this guy do this? Im asking this because i think 12 med schools in Canada still use live dogs as test surgery subjects in med school. And there is probably more in the states.

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    Ok, good to hear that Stenograsaurus.

    And it's truly awful...

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    Okay, I feel a little ill.

    Someone expressed hope that the dog was under anesthesia. However, what was said about "distracting" the dog after breaking the leg makes me think not. I really have no idea; that's just how it sounds.

    Really gross. I don't care if the guy's in trouble for something else entirely; I hope he gets his because of the dog.

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    Although this sort of expermentation is horrible to
    hear about, it does go on all the time. Many big name
    universities conduct reasearch using companion animals.
    Just use any search engine and type in vivisection .

    Or you can go to http://www.novivisezione.org/mostra/pan1_en.htm

    If you can make it through to Panel4, you will find what I
    think is the most compelling evidence that all this "torture"
    is totally unnessary. It's just legalized animal abuse in it's
    worse forms.

    P.S. Steno, I'm sorry you had to sit (in person) and listen
    to all the graphic details, while in the same room with the
    guy. I would be seeing red too.

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    I just saw it and feel the need to caution this is not for the faint of heart - be prepared.

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    Oh, those pictures are horrible! I couldn't even go through the whole thing. How on earth could anyone do something like this to a poor defenseless animal, I'll never understand. It just makes me hurt

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    I feel like throwing up.

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    Until about four years ago, I was as clueless
    as anybody else, that this stuff went on behind
    the scenes. They certainly will not post pictures
    of this on a company product or university info
    catalog. I thought of "animal testing"or animal
    "research" meant little white mice running thru
    mazes. I thought they were studing animal behavior
    in some way. I found a link to a list of companies
    & health charities that "test" and the ones that
    do not "test" on animals.I found the link thru

    http://k9haven.org/ listed under
    cruelty-free products; The lists are here;

    http://www.peta-online.org/mall/cc.html

    If all I can do is speak out against this practice
    and switch brands of the products I buy,then that's what I decided to do.
    Note: These links do not contain any photos,
    just text. Thanks to Kat Kommando for posting
    the earlier caution message. I posted hurriedly
    & did not include that message.Young children
    should never be exposed to such graphic pictures.

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    I'm going to be sick.

    How can ANYONE with a concious or a soul do this to a living creature. I cannot fathom it......

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    RIP Kia, Chipper, Morla, & June

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    Originally posted by twirlbird
    When did this guy do this? Im asking this because i think 12 med schools in Canada still use live dogs as test surgery subjects in med school. And there is probably more in the states.
    I'm thinking late '50's, early '60's, although I'm not sure. I know he graduated from med school in '58. This guy is from Canada. I keep telling myself that animals are viewed differently today than they did in the '50's and '60's. No matter what year I was born, if I was looking at a profession where I had to practice on live animals, I would have picked another profession!!! It's sad to know that this kind of stuff still goes on.

    Lizbud, the website you posted is absolutely horrible. I can't put into words how I felt when I was viewing those pictures. And thanks for the kind words in your P.S. That was a very hard thing for me to do. I've been doing this job for 10 years and there are only three things that haunt me and this is one of them. A lot of times I'm able to shake things off and forget about them. That's not the case here.
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    OMG..that is horrible!! I was crying looking at those poor things!! You can just see how scared they are in those pictures..how can someone look into the eyes of these beautiful animals and listen to them scream in pain?! It drives me crazy!! I wish I could go int here and save every last animal..thats so horrible!!!



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    I told myself not to go and look at the site that lizbud posted, but nooooooooo i had to go and look and now i feel sick to my stomach and the tears won't stop flowing.
    To think that this still goes on today is heartwrenching.
    I couldn't even get past panel 2
    My heart breaks for those poor defenseless animals, when all they want to do is just give someone their unconditional love.
    Oh talk about going to have problems sleeping tonight.

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    CRIMSON UGH!@#!LARGE I MADE IT TO PANAL 4 {BARELY}, WHAT REALLY MAKES ME MAD IS HOW THEY USE ANMALS FOR COSMECTICS??
    ANAMLS HAVE TO SUFFER BECAUSE WE WANT TO LOOK GOOD???
    PERSONALLY, IF ANIMALS SUFFER FROM IT, I WON'T WEAR MAKEUP UN LESS IM SURE THAT THEY DO NOT TEST ON ANIAMLS.
    PROUDLY OWNED BY LONNIE, GIRLIE, AMY, GUINESS, AND LOGAN-BLUE

    r.i.p dorothy the mouse


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    I have a strong stomach, and I can look at stuff, gross stuff, without being sick. But thats just horrible. I can't believe it. I don't use stuff unless its not tested on animals, as much as I can anyway. Its horrible and cruel, and very upsetting!!



    My babies: Josie, Zeke, Kiba, Shadow (AKA Butter)

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    AHHHHHH!!!!!!

    I was browsing Petfinder and saw this cute pic of a Husky at our local shelter.

    Singer

    and was horrified to find this with the bio...

    Singer was sold to a class B research dealer on 5-15-02, due to lack of space in the shelter. FICAS is totally opposed to the sale of animals to research dealers; however, we do not have a voice in this matter. Neither does the ICAC staff--as the sales have been mandated by the Ingham County Board of Commissioners. If you protest the sale of animals to class b research dealers, PLEASE DO NOT contact the Ingham County Animal Shelter. The staff members are not to blame.
    I have just lost all faith in our County Board.

    GRRRRRRR!!!!!
    ~Kimmy, Zam, Logan, Raptor, Nimrod, Mei, Jasper, Esme, & Lucy Inara
    RIP Kia, Chipper, Morla, & June

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