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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonny View Post
    Right now the farmers in this country are needing help & are asking our own people to come & work for them. It is hard work but the rewards are great exercise, accomplishment getting the crops in, do you think any of our people will want to help out? Oh & we would all be paid most likely a minimum wage. This is true I heard it on our local farm forum this morning.
    I've been trying to get back into dairy farming for a long time now. 18 months ago it was really serious. But most guys are only getting 11-14$ a hundred weight right now. The 'good' predictions talk about $16.

    I bet you know why the prices are what they are....

    Why should I work my self to death, 7 days a week to break even, HOPEULLY? Even with a 300 head herd (260ish milkers).... If only the market determined prices....

    There probably won't be any social security, sorry kids you probably will be living under a different kind of government. We owe China big time maybe they will take over our country.
    Would you be willing to sacrifice anything to help your posterity?

    Haven't BO & the rest of his friends talked about a world government? Maybe that is where we are heading?
    Who knows? You can draw comparisons from Biblical prophecy.

    How do you feel about that? The idea of the United States (or any nations really) conceding it's soverginty to the UN?
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    There are still mom & pop farms hanging in there but it takes a whole family some of which work outside the farm to keep it going. Farming is likea roller coaster ride up & down. Been there did that. Eighteen years of hogs did help finally pay off the morgage though. A person has to learn to deversify & farm half the country to make a real go of it now. Seven days a week being your OWN BOSS, I use to like that.

    The kids have to get off the couch & find their own way. There is a lot out there for them now & they should take advantage of it but most are to busy texting. I already lovingly (it comes from the heart) give my time volunteering hours helping out with a program for troubled youth, & mentally physically challagened adults. I still am going to draw my S.S. & it will go back into my local community. Got to start somewhere. There are a lot of non profits in my area that need volunteers & help finanically. A person gives back to which you have taken. I am confident I can do a better job of it than our government has so far.

    The United Nations is suppose to be a peace keeper if I remember from my years of public schooling. It would be scary to concede our sovergnity. This country is use to doing its' own thing just like we are use to doing our own thing. Only time will tell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokey the elder View Post
    Time to inject a religious debate into the stew. There's been a lot of "politics" and not so much "religion". Here's where they may intersect:

    In Europe, some countries wish to ban burqas and niqabs because they hide the whole face. Those against the ban say that it infringes on religious (specifically, Muslim) sensibilities. I am for the ban, because the human face is the gold standard right now for recognizing people (that's why there are photos on passports, licenses, etc.) It is needed for security purposes.

    I've been thinking about this and other clothing rules in religious dogma for some reason. So where should the line be drawn? There have been other controversies about religious garb/hair rules, especially where they interfere with job safety, etc. For example, orthodox Jews or Sikhs with their beards, and full-face respirators comes to mind.

    Not a very coherent statement, but what do you all think?


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    I'm glad that cooler heads prevailed. This group will never be taken
    seriously unless they tone down the outright HATE within the group.

    http://www.twincities.com/news/ci_15...nclick_check=1
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    I don't see the issue. The DNC and their shills did that and worse with the previous administration.

    Why is it now hatred, when before it was merely expressing their disagreement with the "regime" in D.C.?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    Puck, I just sent you a PM, but for everyone else:

    If I wrote a novel about the reality of the USPS and tried to sell it as fiction, it would fail, as no one would believe it.
    LOL, I'll write the sequel from the SEIU standpoint and we will both lose money?

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    A few years ago hanging or burning Shrub in effigy was considered dissent and patriotic. My own brother made the front page of USA Today holding a picture of Shrub portrayed as hitler, not just comparing him to hitler but actually as hitler.

    Fast forward to today, comparing Barry to his peers in history is HATE? What happened to dissent being patriotic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    I don't see the issue.



    North Iowa Tea Party co-founder Bob Johnson said he and other leaders agreed with critics that the image of Obama between Hitler and Lenin was offensive.

    "They are absolutely right in their criticism because the image of Hitler just totally wiped everything else and it misrepresents the tea party movement," Johnson said. "They were right from the standpoint that the image was not a positive reflection on the tea people."
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizbud View Post
    North Iowa Tea Party co-founder Bob Johnson said he and other leaders agreed with critics that the image of Obama between Hitler and Lenin was offensive.

    "They are absolutely right in their criticism because the image of Hitler just totally wiped everything else and it misrepresents the tea party movement," Johnson said. "They were right from the standpoint that the image was not a positive reflection on the tea people."
    Exactly. They admitted it was wrong, apologized and moved on. Its called owning your mistakes.

    I'm no big fan of GWB, but I must have missed the apologies for comparing GWB to Hitler???
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    For educational purposes... What are acceptable forms of expression, and what are considered expressions of HATE to left wing loon... sorry, to Progressives?
    Acceptable.










    And this is HATE.






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    With BO, he is heading us in the direction of SOCIALISM no qualms about it. It doesn't take a bunch of posters with adolph on them to tell us that we already KNOW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonny View Post
    With BO, he is heading us in the direction of SOCIALISM no qualms about it. It doesn't take a bunch of posters with adolph on them to tell us that we already KNOW.
    This statement makes no sense...you have no qualms about it or what???
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post



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    What I mean is in reality we are stuck with BO & his Socialistic Ideals until the next election.

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    Out of curiosity, what about Barack Obama strikes you as being Socialist?
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