Politics and religion.

[lizbud]

Wow...


Debate requires points and counter points be offered. FYI. LOL A counter point is not "you are wrong".

You are giving lessons??? WOW, just wow.

[lizbud]

This. IIRC it is accually acceptable to gang rape a woman in Isamic culture if she is dressed in a "sinful" manner.


Where are the womens rights groups when it comes to Islam?

Right where they always are on these issues, working to end this type
of treatment of women.

Some men in America use, the same logic by using the "she was
asking for it" defense.

[Puckstop31]

You are giving lessons??? WOW, just wow.

Why is that a shocker Liz? You have an original idea to add to ANY conversation?

I've asked you to comment on things, many times... You almost never answer and when you do, it's petty stuff like this.

You have better ideas? We would love to hear them.

Or, you can carry on as usual.

[RICHARD]

In the beginning of DS that may have been true in spots, but that was quickly cleared up, as well as female soldiers being able to wear just t-shirts.

There is some stuff you just cannot camoflauge.

[Lady's Human]

Right where they always are on these issues, working to end this type
of treatment of women.

Some men in America use, the same logic by using the "she was
asking for it" defense.

The question is simple:

Where is the NOW equivalent of the Dutch cartoon commentary about Islam, or are they too afraid of being the target of a very real threat as opposed to being worried about being told to shut up politically?

[Puckstop31]

Actually Puky, The Truth Hurts! There are the good people on here, the common sense people, the avoids conflict people, the fun nutty people, & there are always BULLIES. Our society just can't survive without them?

I am not sure who you are talking about.


But, I know there are good people here. (On both sides of the debate.) I know there are common sense people here. (On both sides of the debate.)

What does 'avoiding conflict' have to do with anything? This is the 'Politics and Religion' thread. Both topics are, well, controversial. The entire premise of this thread IS conflict, so to speak. Further, I encourage you to read about the personal lives of our founders. They actually encouraged vigourous debate. To seek it out even. Because they knew, as I realise, that you never get any where preaching to the choir.... Now, I know that injures the sensibilities of many on this forum. Oh well. LOL I like to live in realityville.

As for bullies... Well, I reckon that is in the eye of the beholder. I try, REALLY hard to not 'bully'. Some people here think that simply posting a retort to a post is "bullying". Again... Oh well.

But take notice who it usually is making the "bully" accusations... You know, rather than offering a intelligent retort to real questions. "When you can't win the arguement, control the language."

[Puckstop31]

There is some stuff you just cannot camoflauge.

I KNEW I shoulda joined the Chair Force. LOL

[Puckstop31]

The question is simple:

Where is the NOW equivalent of the Dutch cartoon commentary about Islam, or are they too afraid of being the target of a very real threat as opposed to being worried about being told to shut up politically?

"Our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor."

Some belive enough to risk it. Most don't.

[Edwina's Secretary]

The question is simple:

Where is the NOW equivalent of the Dutch cartoon commentary about Islam, or are they too afraid of being the target of a very real threat as opposed to being worried about being told to shut up politically?

Do you mean the DANISH cartoon?

All those Europeans look alike to you?

Can't wait to see you wiggle out of this one....

[Lady's Human]

Very simple, nothing to wiggle out of, I made a mistake.

Go back under your bridge.

[Puckstop31]

Do you mean the DANISH cartoon?

All those Europeans look alike to you?

Can't wait to see you wiggle out of this one....

Now that the error has been corrected... Want to answer the question now?

[Puckstop31]

Back on topic.

"It's the economy, stupid."

A National debt that will soon equal 90%+ of our GDP. 109 TRILLION and growing of unfunded entitlement liability.

Then, this....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...101956_pf.html


I'm calling out the Baby Boomers again... What are you willing to risk for your posterity? I don't care if you do not have any children of your own.

You life? Your fortune? Your sacred honor?

SS at 70? 72? Would you vote against a person who suggests such a thing?

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Or, we can continue to play word games. Your choice.

[Lady's Human]

How about we start by getting the Federal Government back into its Constitutional role and start paring away the pieces which aren't authorised by either amendment of the establishment clauses?

[Lady's Human]

Every four years, the DoD goes through a bottom up review of programs called the Quadrennial Defense Review.

There are no sacred cows in the QDR, and if it is used properly, it leads to the elimination of boondoggles such as FCS, Land Warrior, RAH-66, and other vaporware.

The concet of the QDR needs to be put in place for the Federal bureaucracy as a whole. Why on earth we still have the Rural Electrification Commission in place is beyond me (Though it is no longer a separate entity, it has been rolled into the Department of Agriculture).

No program should be exempt, with the exception of those programs/budget items which are required constitutionally.

I really like one of Heinlein's ideas about government. No more automatic extensions for programs. Vote EVERY YEAR to either continue them or not. An added bonus to that would be that Congress would then be so tied up keeping the Government running they wouldn't have time to interfere more in areas where they shouldn't be treading to begin with.

[blue]

Right where they always are on these issues, working to end this type
of treatment of women.

So other then supporting laws in the United States what are they doing actually in Islamic countries to improve womens rights? A petition in the US isnt doing much for the woman slated to be stoned to death. How many members of the womens rights group you belong to are in Afghanistan working on womens rights?

Some men in America use, the same logic by using the "she was
asking for it" defense.

Bad example and you know it. It is not culturally accepted here and the men who use that defense are almost universally prosecuted for trying to use it.