Why make the choice to not have children?

[sirrahbed]

Originally posted by trayi52
Sometimes a teacher can get through to a child when the parent cannot.

I sure agree with that statement. I have very good memories of one specific teacher who made me feel it was OK to sing out My hubby is a teacher and I know it means a great deal to him when his "kids" remember him as being a good teacher.

[shais_mom]

Originally posted by sirrahbed
I know the Harris family gets confusing - let me clear it up:
Sirrahsim (Missy) is my daughter
Sirrahved (Devon) is my daughter-in-love
Sirrahbed is me and I am the MOM

what is a daughter in love?


seriously I am not trying to be the big B word!! I just wondered if she was engaged to your son???? or I am offffff the walllll.

[shais_mom]

wow
my what happened!!!
I just read thru this and I commented then thought better of it then deleted it.
All I am going to say is that saying that animals don't have souls hurts *me*. B/c I have looked into the eyes of animals that have been abused and now are loved. I think that My little Kylie Kat is one of the most beautiful little souls ever.
If my animals aren't in heaven then I don't want to be there.
If they aren't any animals in heaven then there are going to be a looooottt of unhappy people!

[Fallon]

I certainly do believe that animals have souls. If you look at their expressions you can read their thoughts and see deeper into their minds, thus revealing their souls. They can tell us things in such explicitly displayed methods that most humans cannot.

[Twisterdog]

I know the Harris family gets confusing - let me clear it up:
Sirrahsim (Missy) is my daughter
Sirrahved (Devon) is my daughter-in-love
Sirrahbed is me and I am the MOM

Interesting! I guess I don't pay much attention, or maybe I only read the first few letters of a name ... but I really thought there was only ONE Sirrah... person! Dumb me!! LOL!

Wow ... this thread has gotten WAY off-topic .... from why people choose not to have children, to whether or not animals have souls. And, for once, I am NOT to blame for it!

[popcornbird]

Hey! I think I finally figured out the Sirrah family user names! I was incredibly confused by them for months, but now I think I get it. Someone, tell me if I'm right!

Their last name's Harris........(Sirrah backwards), and the rest of their user name is the first three letters of their names backwards. Like Debbie's is *bed* (opposite or deb), and Missy's is *sim* (opposite of mis), and Devon's is *ved* (opposite of dev). So Sirrahbed is really *DebHarris* backwards, and SirrahSim is really *MisHarris* backwards, and Sirrahved is really *DevHarris* backwards! I think I got it! Am I correct? It took a lot of observation to figure that out! LOL!

I was wondering if *Daughter-in-love* was your way of saying daughter-in-law? Another Sirrah confusion!

[trayi52]

Yes, thats it Poppy, and I think the way Debbie described her daughter-in-law is really very sweet. Daughter-in-love, sounds really sweet, may everbody end up with such a sweet mother-in-law as Debbie is to hers.

Now back to the program, commercial is now over, LOL!

[Twisterdog]

Originally posted by popcornbird
Hey! I think I finally figured out the Sirrah family user names! ... It took a lot of observation to figure that out!

Wow .. that WAS pretty observant of you! I'm impressed! I wasn't even observant enough to notice that they were three people instead of one person! LOL!

[sirrahbed]

Originally posted by popcornbird
Hey! I think I finally figured out the Sirrah family user names!

CONGRATULATIONS POPPY!
You are exactly right! Screen names were getting so hard to make up that I started the backwards thing years ago, then Missy did it also before she got married but she still uses it
Daughter-in-love is just something I made up instead of daughter-in-law which sounds so impersonal for someone who is part of my family. In LAW sounds ....legal!

sheesh - I don't even remember what this thread was about!!!

I DO know that I am not going to spend so much time in the DogHouse though Most of it has been nice - getting to hear views from people I would never have a chance to otherwise dialog with, but...well....SHEESH!!

[shais_mom]

Originally posted by sirrahbed


I DO know that I am not going to spend so much time in the DogHouse though Most of it has been nice - getting to hear views from people I would never have a chance to otherwise dialog with, but...well....SHEESH!! [/B]

ppsst
Debbie
You are allowed to go wherever you feel comfortable on this board!!! So be not afraid!!!
And You're invited to the meeting toooooo!!!!!

[popcornbird]

Originally posted by sirrahbed
CONGRATULATIONS POPPY!
You are exactly right!

Yippee! I knew I was smart! LOL

sheesh - I don't even remember what this thread was about!!!

Well it went through several phases, but it is now about YOU (and your family)!! Hehehe...

[Vio&Juni]

Since almost the beginning of this thread there is a thing that is bothering me and I wanted to keep it for myself (knowing what a war I could start with it), but I decided I have to say it. If it is a discussion, then you have to discuss all its aspects.

How on earth a woman that cannot stand kids, could think of adopting or fostering a child?! The unpleasant aspect of raising kids can be dealt with only love for the children and, in my opinion, with the instinct of protecting your offsprings that only arises when you give birth. I know, there are woman that could do just the same for the kids as if they were her own, but NOT THOSE THAT CANNOT STAND CHILDREN. If I worked for the social service, I would be very selective with prospective parents and one of my main issue would be: WHY they have no kids?

I respect the right to chose if one wants to have children or not. It is not about it. It is right to have them and it is right not to have them. It's one's choice. To be honest with yourself and the world it's the hardest thing.

I am sure, a lot of you will be upset at me. Please be. This is my opinion, and when I have an opinion it's not only that I WANT TO HAVE AN OPINION OF MY OWN, but it is based on something. I've grown to my opinion.

And I hope Missy will delete this thread, even if it is in the Dog House. There were some things said that give me goosebumps.

[Cataholic]

Mom Harris,
I think it is amazing you remain so calm on a thread where there have been 'attacks' against your family. You still post with maturity and kindness, while letting us know you don't appreciate the words some of us use- like me. While I don't like to hurt people with my words (or my fists), it is hard for me to just let some things go. I think if some people throw flames at me, and my beliefs (animals being in Heaven), then, they should expect, or at least accept, me throwing flames back. Is it mature? Possibly not, but, hurtful talk is hurtful talk- no matter who it comes from. To maintain a position of religious superiority while throwing barbs is just plain wrong.

[aly]

Originally posted by Vio&Juni

How on earth a woman that cannot stand kids, could think of adopting or fostering a child?! The unpleasant aspect of raising kids can be dealt with only love for the children and, in my opinion, with the instinct of protecting your offsprings that only arises when you give birth. I know, there are woman that could do just the same for the kids as if they were her own, but NOT THOSE THAT CANNOT STAND CHILDREN. If I worked for the social service, I would be very selective with prospective parents and one of my main issue would be: WHY they have no kids?


There were some things said that give me goosebumps.

I totally agree with you. That is a very valid point that kept running across my mind too. I hear horror stories about foster homes where the children are neglected/abused/not loved or cared for. Not saying anyone on PT would do that, but its just so sad to me.

I got pretty freaked out over a lot of things said in this thread too. That is why I haven't posted until now. There were some terrible things said in another related thread here in the Dog House, but I guess those were deleted along with my reply.

[jonza]

I personally think that it's undeniable and obvious that animals have souls. Just look at them. Check out their behavior patterns, look into their eyes. Notice how they react when hurt or abused, or cuddled and loved. Isn't that enough to persuade any sane, intelligent person?

… and, since this thread has got well and truly confused, I feel free to state another FACT:

MY CAT IS MORE INTELLIGENT THAN THE MAJORITY OF HUMAN BEINGS.


This must be a fact because I believe it!