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    Originally posted by Twisterdog


    Of course I would, how absurd to even ask that. I also wouldn't hesitate to spend $350 for a series of training sessions.
    Twisterdog is speaking of my quote:

    QUOTE:
    If this were a medical problem, would you spend $350 to help save your dog's life?



    That was a RHETORICAL question.........not directed at ANYONE in particular.

    I was referring to a $350 evaluation, not on-going treatment. Yes, if it were $350 per hour for a long time, most people could NOT afford it.

    QUOTE:
    If this were a medical problem, would you spend $350 to help save your dog's life?

    rhetorical question
    n.
    A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.

    MEANING:
    No answer necessary....OF COURSE we all would.
    Last edited by Sudilar; 02-26-2003 at 02:30 PM.
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    This book might be helpful, if not, at least interesting:
    The Culture Clash by Donaldson
    http://www.sitstay.com/store/books/understanding1.shtml
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    I've read the Culture Clash and it is an incredible book. HIGHLY recommend it!!!!!
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    Originally posted by aly
    I've read the Culture Clash and it is an incredible book. HIGHLY recommend it!!!!!
    Can you give a brief on what this book is about??

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    Originally posted by Cookiebaker


    Can you give a brief on what this book is about??
    She covers so much wonderful information, I don't think I could do it justice with my own words. But I'll try...

    First, here's part of the Foreword:

    The Culture Clash depicts dogs as they really are - stripped of their Hollywood fluff, with their loveable 'can I eat it, chew it, urinate on it, whats in it for me' philosophy..... Relentlessly, she champions the dog's point of view, always showing concern for their education and well being.
    ...The Culture Clash cuts to the chase - no if's and no but's - here's the story - now educate your dog!


    She talks about anthropomorphism (people giving human characteristics to dogs) and misconceptions about dog behavior. She talks about aggression and how people think there are dogs who will bite and dogs who won't bite. She says this is a misconception and every dog has the potential to bite and we should always remember that. She also mentions how aggressive behavior does not fracture relationships in dog society - its all taken in stride. She says the problem is that it often changes things a great deal in dog - human relationships and we often execute dogs who bite .. which is the culture clash.

    I sorta paraphrased the beginning of her aggression chapter a little. There's wonderful information about socialization and bite thresholds too. And thats just one chapter!

    Its an amazing book that I recommend to any dog owner.
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    Here's a review of it that might give you a better idea:

    http://www.adopt-a-greyhound.org/cgm...ltureclash.htm
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    Thank you for the book, sounds intersting!

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    I haven't been on here in awhile and just read this thread. I'm so sorry you and Chewy are going though this! I really hope things work out this weekend. Good luck to the both of you! My thoughts will be with you. I'm sorry not everyone has been very supportive. I can't imagine how you feel, you obviously love Chewy and I can tell that you are trying to do what's best for him. I'm sure you and the trainers know what is best for Chewy before anyone else would. Again, good luck this weekend, I hope everything works out for the best!

    Thanks for the signature & avatar kfamr

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    I think your dog might have distemper from what you are discribing.
    I highly doubt Chewy has distemper. Distemper is a most often fatal disease with a relatively short time period between first symptoms and death.

    Distemper is also one of the diseases dogs are vaccinated against when they receive their puppy shots and annual booster shots.
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    I thought he had shots that kept him from havin Dsitemper.

    I would also like to add, and this is very important, I only get to suggest what heepens ot Chewy, and I have alot fo say in it because he is my dog but my parents are the finaly decision making people, if they deced on somethign that is what goes. I was aloud to go to the trainer because they said it was ok and in the begining before all of the suggestions my parents are the ones who said he HAD to be put to sleep, I try to convince them of other things but sometimes they are just trying to do what si best for there family, like before when they said we were putting Chewy to sleep cause he was "dangerous".

    Ash
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    There is also several other books that are great. Several are written by Carol Lea Benjamin, They are listed below

    1. Mother Knows Best
    2, Dog training for Kids
    3. Dog Problems

    She is a renowed trainer and is in the front ranks of American dog trainers today. The books "Dog training for Kids ' and "Dog Problems" have won the Dog Writers' Association of America Awards. She also writes a monthly column "Dog Trainer's Diary" for the American Kennel Club Gazette.

    Then theres the four time Olympic gold medalist Greg Louganis, his book "For the Life of Your Dog" is great. He talks about matters concerning choosing a new dog, basic care, and specific health and behavioral concerns. In this book he includes cures for chewing, barking, biting and other so-called behavior problems. Answers to the great housetraining disputes-including the pros and cons to crating. This is also a great book.

    If you decide to purchase any of these books, I think that you will be very happy with all the information that is in them.

    Good Luck!!

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    HI I'm new...

    I am so sorry to read what you've been going thru.. I'll be praying that everything works out great for you and poor chewy...

    Seems to me ... you have been a great owner and have tried very hard to work with Chewy...

    I hope you are able to correct the problem!!
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    Thanx.

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    Well. I think its time I've told you all......

    My parents changed there minds. I swear to god I was tottally and still am totally against it! I told them John could help him and that there was no reson to be doing this. I told them that he could be helped and that with a little bit of love and dicipline he could have been saved. But they said he was dangerous and that he could bite one of us kids or a visitor. So I told them to send him to a foster home, they can work with him and help him and then he will have a nice home and will be sent to a nice home when he is ready. My parents said they couldn't oford a law suit. i told them Molly and Miek woudl take him and they promised not to sue us and that no one would eve know if he bite them but they said again, what if he hurts them badly and have thousands of dollars in hospital bills, you think they wont sue us? And I said yes and they laughed. I have been telling them there is hope since Wednesday when they told me I had to haev him put to sleep. I told them he can be saved, I swear to god I didn't want this to happen, you have to beleave me please please please. Well, my dad made the apointment friday morning and Chewy was put down yesterday at 8:00. May he rest in peace. He was such a sweet boy and I hope he understnads I had nothing to do with this. I also hope he can forgive me. Forgive me for ruinging his life, for making him turn out this way
    I also hope he can forgive me for being such a bad mother, I shouldn't of ever let him turn mean. I should have known he would of bite Abbey, I should have removed him from the room, I was stupid and its all my fault. I'm sorry I didn't tell you yesterday about this, or even on wednesday. I havn't been and still aren't emtionally stable to handle the comments I know that you guys will say, although I swear to god I would have given my life to save him. I loved him, and thats all I can say, I really did and now he is gone

    Ash
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