If we just banned humans, the problem would be solved! Oh, wait - we ARE humans .... hmmmm ....
If we just banned humans, the problem would be solved! Oh, wait - we ARE humans .... hmmmm ....
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I agree! Someone has suggested that people are afraid of guns...I suppose some are. Some people are afraid of heights as well. Or public speaking.
I will say what I AM afraid of - people who have guns. Especially people who feel the need to take their guns out in public. And even more afraid of people who feel the need to own military style guns. That does not mean I cower in my home afraid to go in public places. It just means I do what I can to avoid these people. There is a reason you hear "armed and dangerous."
Sorry LH - your argument is still fallacious. To make your stretch you would have to compare the exposure to guns that result in death and the exposure to vehicles that result in death. You have not even taken inot consideration the number of guns vcs the number of vehcules. I think your "fairly common charge of vehicular homicide" hyperbole. How do you define "fairly common"? Once a day?Quite the contrary. If you figure the statistical probabilities of death from firearms (# of firearms vs number of deaths annually) vs the number of deaths by vehicle (again, use the same calculation) the motor vehicle is far, far more likely to kill when operated as designed. There are more firearms than vehicles in the United States, and far more vehicular deaths, be they homicides (vehicular homicide is a fairly common charge) or other incidents. In a vehicular homicide, the vehicle performed as designed, and someone died, therefore the end conclusion using your logic is the same, vehicles MUST be banned.
About 25% of adults in the US own guns. As there are about 250,000 vehicles in the US - there is a huge difference in exposure. Quibble with the numbers if you like - it doesn't take much thinking to recognize that comparing the number of deaths by gun to deaths by vehicle is invalid.
It is a good stretch...but still a stretch. You have apples, oranges and peaches - and all you have produced is fruit salad.
So why can't I sue the manufacturer of a gun if it kills someone?
250,000 vehicles in the US? That's an very poor estimate, as is the 25% of adults owning firearms.
according to the census bureau, in 2006 there were 48,000 deaths in motor vehicle accidents.
In that same year there were 13000 homicides involving firearms.
You can parse, twist and adjust statistics however you care to, but the end result is the same. you are far, far more likely to be killed by a motor vehicle than a firearm.
The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.
This thread is beginning to remind me of a saying from Grandma Paterson: "Two stubborn beaks of equal strength can stretch a worm to any length!" And, she'd point out, still be hungry while doing so!
I've Been Frosted
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Ecclesiastes 3:1The clock of life is wound but once and no man has the power
To know just when the hands will stop - on what day, or what hour.
Now is the only time you have, so live it with a will -
Don't wait until tomorrow - the hands may then be still.
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Wolfy ~ Fuzzbutt #3My little dog ~ a heartbeat at my feet
Sparky the Fuzzbutt - PT's DOTD 8/3/2010
RIP 2/28/1999~10/9/2012Myndi the Fuzzbutt - Mom's DOTD - Everyday
RIP 1/24/1996~8/9/2013
Ellie - Mom to the Fuzzbuttz
To everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven.
Ecclesiastes 3:1The clock of life is wound but once and no man has the power
To know just when the hands will stop - on what day, or what hour.
Now is the only time you have, so live it with a will -
Don't wait until tomorrow - the hands may then be still.
~~~~true author unknown~~~~
Just for the record?
Coley Mitchell, Lab Tech, Found Drunk, Partially Clothed, Surrounded By Escaped Monkeys
Coley Mitchell, 32, was arrested for public drunkenness after being discovered in a locker room intoxicated, with his pants half down and two lab monkeys running around.
A lab tech at Georgia Health Sciences University may have engaged in too much monkey business.
Officials jailed Coley Mitchell, 32, on August 13 after he was discovered intoxicated with his pants down in a campus locker room.
In the same room: two lab monkeys who had been let out of their cages, the Augusta Chronicle reported.
Mitchell smelled of alcohol, according to police reports, and became belligerent and combative when asked to leave the room.
Mitchell was booked on charges of public drunkenness, but was released on Aug. 17, and has since been terminated by the university, a spokeswoman told The Huffington Post.
"GHSU does not condone behavior that conflicts with the research, education and clinical missions of the university and employees are expected to conduct themselves, at all times, with integrity and respect," Jennifer Hilliard Scott, senior media relations coordinator, in a statement to WJBF-TV made before the termination.
Meanwhile, the monkeys that were found running loose have examined by a veterinarian and found to be unharmed, WRDW-TV reported.
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"GHSU does not condone behavior that conflicts with the research, education and clinical missions of the university and employees are expected to conduct themselves, at all times, with integrity and respect,"
And the monkeys get away with a slap on the wrist?
If I had a choice - I'd lock myself in a cage until the cops showed up.
Primates, Humans.........nope.
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Divided we fall.
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Well duh! If there are far, far more motor vehicles than guns that stands to reason. But it doesn't mean vehicles are more dangerous than guns. It just means there are more of them. If you want to make this argument you have to look at vehicle deaths to number of vehicles as compared to gun deaths to number of guns.
You would tear me to pieces if I made such a sloppy argument...You can do better than that!
To me the wonder of pets is that they love you...no matter how you hold your teacup...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Wolfy ~ Fuzzbutt #3My little dog ~ a heartbeat at my feet
Sparky the Fuzzbutt - PT's DOTD 8/3/2010
RIP 2/28/1999~10/9/2012Myndi the Fuzzbutt - Mom's DOTD - Everyday
RIP 1/24/1996~8/9/2013
Ellie - Mom to the Fuzzbuttz
To everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven.
Ecclesiastes 3:1The clock of life is wound but once and no man has the power
To know just when the hands will stop - on what day, or what hour.
Now is the only time you have, so live it with a will -
Don't wait until tomorrow - the hands may then be still.
~~~~true author unknown~~~~
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