A woman President

[Edwina's Secretary]

doesn't serve your turn well in defending their suitability for office.

I ask you....where....exactly where...have I defending Hillary's suitability for office?

I have defended the truth....maybe just not your truth

[Sophist]

I ask you....where....exactly where...have I defending Hillary's suitability for office?

I have defended the truth....maybe not your[I] truth

Not your [I] truth? Open tag, or am I missing something here?

Again with the personal attacks instead of actual rebuttals. And no, 'Nuh-uh!' doesn't count as a rebuttal.

I think denying all the well-known indiscrepancies in a candidate's representation of herself counts as defending her. In that respect, pretty much every post of yours I can recall in this thread. Sorry, not big on words games like that.

And if 'my' truth is closer to the truth one will find with even moderate delving into Hilary's past instead of just sitting back and saying "No, I just won't believe that because it sounds bad!" Well, then... I am okay with that.

[Edwina's Secretary]

I have said repeatedly....I am not a fan of Hillary because of her vote for funding the invasion of Iraq. Nor have I denied discrepancies.

Saying something is well-known does not make it so.

I don't like hyperbole and that is what you engage in.

You also fail to answer direct questions.

By golly I think you have a career in politics!

[Puckstop31]

I understand. I'll take it easy on the boy.

Please don't. I really enjoy debate.

Boy... LOL

[Sophist]

I have said repeatedly....I am not a fan of Hillary because of her vote for funding the invasion of Iraq. Nor have I denied discrepancies.

Saying something is well-known does not make it so.

I don't like hyperbole and that is what you engage in.

You also fail to answer direct questions.

By golly I think you have a career in politics!

No, actually I am now failing to answer direct questions that have already been repeatedly answered. The first few times an answer is ignored and the same questions are just rephrased a bit tends to take some of the fun out of the debate.



Perhaps I am guilty of hyperbole, but that is a much more acceptable form of bad debate manners than the ad hominem attacks you seem to favor.

How are you supposed to debate the issues with someone who only responds with "Nah, that sounds bad, I'll pretend it is a complete lie and just insult you instead"???

[Puckstop31]

How are you supposed to debate the issues with someone who only responds with "Nah, that sounds bad, I'll pretend it is a complete lie and just insult you instead"???

In my experience Sophist, this means the other party has nothing to counter your points with. Basically, you are "winning" the debate.



(Does anybody ever really 'win' a debate on a website?)

[wombat2u2004]

In my experience Sophist, this means the other party has nothing to counter your points with. Basically, you are "winning" the debate.



(Does anybody ever really 'win' a debate on a website?)

Thats true.....especially with who you have been arguing with Sophist.
Get used to her style of answering questions with a question.
I'd agree with Puck....you're miles ahead.
Wombat

[Edwina's Secretary]

No, actually I am now failing to answer direct questions that have already been repeatedly answered. The first few times an answer is ignored and the same questions are just rephrased a bit tends to take some of the fun out of the debate.



Perhaps I am guilty of hyperbole, but that is a much more acceptable form of bad debate manners than the ad hominem attacks you seem to favor.

How are you supposed to debate the issues with someone who only responds with "Nah, that sounds bad, I'll pretend it is a complete lie and just insult you instead"???

You do some mighty fine ad hominen yourself! Your trick to not answer questions is interesting...When did I say "Nah, that sounds bad, I'll pretend it is a complete lie and just insult you instead?"

I have asked you to prove your statement that Hillary claimed to be a Jew. I asked you to prove your statement that Hillary claimed to be a long-term resident of New York (yes, I know she put on a Yankees hat and we all know she is a Cubs fan... ) I asked you WHERE I ever supported Hillary as a candidate.

You answered none of these questions. Instead you suggested anyone who disagrees with your assessment does not know, has not studied, etc, etc. "please, please, please".......and of course...."no, not in those exact words..."

[sparks19]

YAWN. Now this is just getting boring. lol

Let's stick to the debate and not this "well you said this" bull....

[Pawsitive Thinking]

I remember a woman Prime Minister

[lizbud]

YAWN. Now this is just getting boring. lol

Let's stick to the debate and not this "well you said this" bull....

If you are bored, you can aways find something else to do. I don't think
anyone here is supposed to keep you entertained.

[sparks19]

If you are bored, you can aways find something else to do. I don't think
anyone here is supposed to keep you entertained.

WHAT?

Are you sure?

AGain, LOL working in a bead shop doesn't exactly take up a lot of time. What else am I supposed to do for fun

[lizbud]

You could peddle the beads door to door.

[IRescue452]

I hate Hilary, but since I was voted out of citizen rights here in the US, I'll vote for her anyway just so I can be considered human again in my own country.

[Edwina's Secretary]

Well... I certainly would not want to bore anyone...so my closing statement....

Did Hillary pander to the Jewish populstion in New York after the brouhaha over her embrace of Arafat's widow? Absolutely. Did she trot out an obsure relative who was Jewish? Absolutely. Did she claim to be Jewish because it is possible that someone in the audience might have thought that maternally she was desended from a Jew? I don't know what anyone in her audience was thinking but she did not make such a claim.

Did she establish residency in New York after a VERY high profile residency in Washinton DC and Arkansas? Absolutely She is a carpetbagger -- same as Robert Kennedy when he did it. Did she present herself as a long term resident? Other than the Yankee cap....how could she? Residency and politicans is a fluid thing. Cheney had to change his residency from Texas at the last moment as the president and vice-president cannot be from the same state.

Have I defended her suitability for office?....absolutely not. In fact, I have stated repeatedly that I do not. My reason for not supporting her is I find her too willing to bend to the political wind...as evidenced by her vote for funding the invasion of Iraq...among other things. Is she the only politician, or citizen for that matter, who originally supported the invasion and now does not? Nope. I have read her explanation and her statements at the time of her vote. Interesting, clarifying...but still not good enough for me.

I believe the discussion should be based on facts...not somebody's spin. But as some find that boring...