Well since Bull (and Shadow) will be retrieving the ducks that daddy hunts, from everyone's advice it sounds like it would be better to just have them removed...easier, less painful in the long run! As for the vet we're back, Bull didn't have roundworms!! He got his shots and we got outta there. But first we had to sniff everything, including the big german shepherd. He was nice, though! BTW- Bull weighs 13 pounds at 7 weeks...Shadow weighs 10 lbs. at 7 weeks! WOW!!! Oh yeah, and they played "who's bigger and better?" in the vet office!!! Dorks!