Originally posted by Luna
I could have a T-bone steak in my hand, and she wouldn't notice it's there.
My Dusty is not food motivated either. However, he is a crazy man when he sees his frisbee! When other dogs are around he can care less if his frisbee is visible. He marches to the tune of Mr. Frisbee! On the other hand though, I have to be careful another dog doesn't try to take his frisbee. He thinks it's only for him.

Most dogs have some kind of motivational item. That's what you could use for the Bar Open, Bar closed training technique.