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    I'd take a jalapeno over dish soap any day.
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    I think that is just crazy.

    I usually give my oldest daughter times out, take something away, or just raise my voice. But sometimes I do have to give her a spanking. Really I hate giving spankings but sometimes it is the only thing works.
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    The jalapeno is cruel, but I do think spanking is just as cruel, if not worse..... much much worse actually. I can't imagine laying my hand on an innocent child. I've babysat for people who told me to spank their kids if they did something wrong and I outright refused to do that.
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    Originally posted by NoahsMommy
    Its not only cruel, but this person is uneducated. Can she not ask a doctor, school counselor, teacher, the INTERNET for advice on how to teach a child obedience and respect?

    Shoving a hot object into a childs mouth is abusive!
    Kelly, you took the words right out of my mouth and posted them.

    My very first reaction is that this is abusive and the person must be very ignorant.

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    Originally posted by christa


    I'm all for spanking . . . I was spanked as a child and I turned out perfectly normal.
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    It not cruelty, it's being friggin lazy.

    I remember my mom washing my brother's mouth out with soap.

    Of course,

    It just primes the kid order at a Mexican restaurant with no fear at all.....


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    My mom pummelled my arse, because I deserved it, and except for drinking, smoking, looking at women lustily, cheating at Jeopardy!, speeding, setting off illegal fireworks and some other things that I've forgotten since....I turned out pretty maladjusted...


    My mom had the Vulcan Nerve Pinch-

    If you acted STUPID, she'd come up by your side, lean over and lovingly whisper into your ear, "YOU HAD BETTER BEHAVE YOURSELF..." While pinching the skin on the inside part of your arm....if you squirmed, she'd remind you that you'd HAVE TO END UP WITH HER, ALONE, later on.....


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    On second thought....Jalapenos without the nachos IS CRUEL!!!!!
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    Originally posted by ramanth
    I'd take a jalapeno over dish soap any day.
    you said it i think it's better than spankins or dish soap
    and i sometimes get into trouble



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    I agree with everything Aly said.

    I can't remember the last time i've done something to be spanked.
    I think i'm too scared to do anything wrong because i've seen all of the crap my brother and sister got into while growing up!

    The parenting book is a perfect idea.

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    Originally posted by RICHARD
    My mom had the Vulcan Nerve Pinch-

    If you acted STUPID, she'd come up by your side, lean over and lovingly whisper into your ear, "YOU HAD BETTER BEHAVE YOURSELF..." While pinching the skin on the inside part of your arm....if you squirmed, she'd remind you that you'd HAVE TO END UP WITH HER, ALONE, later on.....

    Hehe, I've got that pinch down pat too. Jaden always get me busted by blurting out OUCH!


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    my mom used tabasco sauce on the tips of our tongues when we said something innappropriate. hey it worked, it only happened to me once for it to get the message across.
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    Uhhh... yea that is a little weird. and I have never heard of that one before. hmmm....


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    Originally posted by Samantha Puppy
    Did anyone ever think that maybe this is her culture's version of our mothers rinsing our mouths out with soap? For God's sake, kids my mom went to school with had their mouths rinsed out with COMET! Back then, I'm sure they didn't realize that it could poison their children but it was enough of a deterrent that the kid stopped whatever bad behavior had been going on.

    I personally wouldn't use a jalapeno on my own child but if this is the *only* way the mother can get her to settle down and behave, who are we to judge?
    I totally agree. When I was younger I was spanked for misbehaving and it really upset me when people referred to getting spanked as "abuse." They are two completely different things.

    As for the peppers... I dont think its going to harm the children.... but I must admit its a little strange. But if its the only thing that works.. then I guess its ok. I Hardly think this is abuse... Thats just my two cents...

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    It seems a little 'off' to me. Just like soap seems a little 'off' to most people today. And, comet? I hadn't ever heard that one before.

    This makes me wonder what she does when no one is around, that she DOESN'T admit to...if this is what comes up in casual conversation.


    The thing where spanking went wrong, IMO, is when it stopped being an attention grabber (a swat on the behind, a tap on the hand) and became a form of physical punishment- a beating, a whipping, etc. There isn't any reason for spanking to truly involve 'pain'. It isn't for that purpose, IMO. 'Spanking' a two year old for repeatedly throwing the dog's food across the floor isn't done to physically cause pain. It is done to show that mommy means business, and she is displeased. That is gotten across without any force- it shouldn't be 'felt' physically as much as it is felt emotionally (like a harsh "NO", or "Stop".)

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    Originally posted by Cataholic
    It seems a little 'off' to me. Just like soap seems a little 'off' to most people today. And, comet? I hadn't ever heard that one before.

    This makes me wonder what she does when no one is around, that she DOESN'T admit to...if this is what comes up in casual conversation.


    The thing where spanking went wrong, IMO, is when it stopped being an attention grabber (a swat on the behind, a tap on the hand) and became a form of physical punishment- a beating, a whipping, etc. There isn't any reason for spanking to truly involve 'pain'. It isn't for that purpose, IMO. 'Spanking' a two year old for repeatedly throwing the dog's food across the floor isn't done to physically cause pain. It is done to show that mommy means business, and she is displeased. That is gotten across without any force- it shouldn't be 'felt' physically as much as it is felt emotionally (like a harsh "NO", or "Stop".)
    I agree completely.
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    I think it could be worse. Once when I got in really bad trouble as a kid, my dad made me go into his woodshop and pick out a 2x4. He made me sit there and watch while he drew the paddle pattern, cut it out with his table saw thing, and sanded it. Took about 1/2 an hour. Then he whooped me in the behind with it. That's messing with your kid's head!! But it really didn't hurt much.

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    That is weird, but I must tell you, its not an uncommon 'child punishment' in some cultures, and I can't exactly say its cruel. I know a lot of people of Arab origin who use the 'jalapeno technique' on their children. For ME, jalapeno is nothing I would call 'cruel'. I can eat it with no problem. I love hot foods. For my little cousins in Pakistan, jalapeno is candy. They LOVE it. If their parents were to punish them with jalapeno, they would say "Bring it on!" LOL!

    I, personally, do NOT like to eat jalapenos by themselves...because I just find them tasteless, but my dad eats several with dinner everyday. He eats the HOTTEST ones, and LOVES them. Yesterday at dinner, he was eating several and started sweating. I asked him, "Dad...what's the point in eating something that will make you sweat like that?" He said, "It tastes good...I like it." So anyway, I decided to try one too and see how hot it was. Oh...it was hot, but it was not so hot that I would consider giving it to a child 'cruel'. Its just not something I enjoy...even though I love hot food. Maybe I just don't see it because I grew up eating and enjoying hot foods. Arabs usually cannot tolerate hot foods, so giving it to THEIR children like some people I know DO, might be cruel. I don't agree with this technique. I don't like it. I think its a stupid and ridiculous way to punish a child. Even if it ISN'T cruel, it is teaching a child to hate and despise a certain type of food. That is not good in my honest opinion.

    As to spanking, I do not find spanking cruel in the least bit. There's a difference between spanking and hitting/beating. Big difference. My parents didn't spank me much when I was young, but there were times when they did. It never hurt...just warned me and gave me the message that *Mom's mad at me.* As a child, I did not like the idea of Mom being mad at me, so a little spank was enough to set me straight. When I did something wrong in front of others, I would get the 'look'. No spanks in front of people.....but that LOOK my mom would give me was enough to make me stop whatever I was doing and behave. I don't think spanking is wrong. Hitting and beating a child is TOTALLY unacceptable, but little spanks are things children need sometimes, just to 'get the message'. I know children that NEVER get spanked or scolded by their parents, and they're practically devils. No one wants to be around such children. Light spanking is called discipline...not abuse.
    Last edited by popcornbird; 12-16-2004 at 07:16 PM.

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