Carrie, it IS getting scary! I think you are starting to know me just a "Little" better than my better half. And he scares me sometimes when he knows what I'm going to do before I know what I'm going to do! LOL

I wasn't upset when I posted. I was just confused that this thread took such a strange change from how it started. I do believe in crate training and encourage anyone who feels comfortable with the method to employ it "the right way". For those who don't like the crate training method "then to each their own!"

My only objection to crate training is improper use. To many people use the crate as a place to discipline their dogs when they don't know what else to do. Crates are NOT to be used in any form of discipline. There are tooooooo many people crate training and NOT doing it "the right way." A crate does not take the place of a Alpha leader who can teach a dog through other methods.