sasvermont, yes I know cats are much stronger than is often realized. And I am truly sorry about them pushing your family heirloom off the shelf. Fortunately I have nothing with me that isn't valualble enough that it couldn't take a tumble. They will purposely push things off a shelf if they can get their paws behind them so they can effectively ease things in their way. Perhaps some of you rememeber about Shadow tearing off the pet carrier's door a few months ago. I am in the process of making an new pet carrier, one they cannot tear up. I suppose the best thing to do is not to place valuable things up where they can get behind it, because I have had them push a 15 lb fan on to the floor off of a shelf. yet I believe that they can tell by one's attitude when they have gone too far with their playing.
..............wayne





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