Deep breaths everyone!!! Audrey, please take what Carrie says as a very sincere effort to try and explain why your approach may not be the best way to handle the problem. We can all read how distressed you are YOURSELF over perhaps not taking the right approach to disciplining Josie. I DO know how much you love her. I don't believe anyone means to imply otherwise. I know that Carrie does not need ME to stick up for her. But, and this is for all the other newer members as well, Carrie indeed IS a very wise, intelligent, educated and most of all, CARING person, as well as someone who has, since the beginning of Pet Talk, shared her wisdom her vast knowledge and her concern for us all, (especially the younger ones like you, Audrey) and all things animal! And Jiz, (welcome, by the way!) Carrie, having an impressive background in animal behavior and education, truly does know a lot about animals. And she would be the first to admit that neither she, nor anyone, knows it all! And to everyone else new here. We are a very friendly group of people, here to share out love, passion and knowledge of animals. And MOST especially, to extend our support to each other. It is so distressing to hear people casting dispursions upon one another. Audrey, please, please, please try not to interpert well meaning advice as a personal criticism. We all want to help you out with this, OK? You are such a dear girl, and I really want you, and Josie, to stick around! And Jiz, your 4 legged family is gorgeous!

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[ December 15, 2001: Message edited by: tatsxxx11 ]