Mary, I never had that problem because I DON'T rub her nose IN it.

Carrie, I think that maybe, just maybe, not all dogs respond the same way. Maybe someone learned a lot about something, and will figure thats always and only how it goes. Maybe there is different ways. I did that also, after (right after she made the mess). I know if you don't then when you show her she will be like what?? why are you doing this?? Maybe the trainer wasn't the smartest person, it was like 3 years ago, I still think she was pretty knowledgable. She worked well with the dogs, and she tought me a lot about training. Enought atleast to help train a friends dog who couldn't take it with no $. I duno, i'm not really smart enough to know who knows what and which way is better for the dog. I'm sure where you were in high school you weren't knowing everything either. I'm REALLY sorry if this sounds rude, but the way your telling me (which i know is only trying to help, and thank you) but it makes me feel really bad about my dog. All I want is to be good to her, and give her the best home. And it seems everything I do with her is wrong, cause you make it out like "oh, never do that! this is proper". I tried, and i was around 15 at the time I got her, I believed that htis trainer knew what she was talking about, i;ve never trained a dog. I believe there is more then the proper way to do things. By the way you explain dogs behavior, someparts, doesn't even sound like Josie, so I think that the right way, isn't always the best, all dogs are different and have different needs. I wish i could be smarter with it, but I don't need to be smart (dog smarts i mean) to love her. And she definitly gets enough. Please don't take this the wrong way, I don't want it to be like the barking thing, it's just my opinion that thats how I feel. I didn't mean it to offend, if it does then I'll stop asking stupid things