to be honest I really dont care if I insulted show bred dogs, I am against showing and I will NEVER agree with it. I have seen and know many show bred dogs first hand, as well as their working counterparts and every single one of the working counterparts are better then the show versians. I have no doubt that show bred dogs can work, but they can NOT work to the working dog standerd, that is what people delude themselves into thinking, as for the intelligance issue, that was my moms comment, I do have a show bred dog, Blair is totally show bred. oh he learns fast, but when it comes to figering things out fr himself he is as useless as it gets. I also do know plenty of other show bred dogs, that I do like, but when it comes to intelligance the working counter parts are smarter. lots of show dogs compete in AKC and other KCs feild, herding, etc.. events, and they do well.. they are also competing against other show bred dogs, try sticking them in a real trial with a bunch of working bred dogs, and most will fail miserably. their ARE plenty of top working trainers who have taken on show dogs and they were not able to get the show dogs very far. by the way obediance titles are NOT working titles, and I dont consider KC working titles to have any merit whatsoever. for example top BC herding trainers have taken on barbie collies and no amount of training was able to get them past nursery in an ISDS herding trial. meanwhile their working bred border collie puppys were already good enugh to compete in open. face it, the show breed and the working breed of ANY breed are completly different, both in looks or ability.

by the way yellowlablover I HAVE done plenty of research on labs. I am hardly making things up out of the blue.