Cali-

Some of the things you stated I tend to agree with, how it is a shame that so many show breeders are caught up in looks only. There are plenty out there like that, and they are not breeding for the betterment of the breed at all. I saw it first-hand when I was in the show world for awhile with my collie Willie. However, I saw other breeders who genuinely loved the breed and were careful to breed only well-tempered and healthy dogs. To lump them all together, indeed my opinion is always to lump ANY group of people together, is a vast generalization and prejudice. IMHO, when you close off any group of people and lump them all together, you are narrowing your mind and shutting out the ability to always learn more from different viewpoints and objectives.

Now what I am about to say is not said to be mean, but in hopes to make you think or maybe realize a few things..It is not usually in my nature to join or bring up more conflict, but I feel strongly that I need to get this out in the air.

for the most part show dogs are rather brainless but people delude themselves into thinking a their show dogs are ever so smart, and if given the chance they could work with the best.
Did you truly ever expect that this statement wouldn't cause outrage to the people who have, plan to have, or have had show-bred dogs whom they love dearly and take pride in as much as you do your dogs? This is an attitude I have seen often and I admit it has greatly irked me more than once. You have seemed genuinely hurt and not understanding before as to why you get few responses to your posts, but I honestly believe this is why, because this attitude you carry about your type of dog versus other people's is one of superiority. You dismiss or insult the dogs that are the whole world to some people here. It is one thing to address or disagree with the way some breeds are bred which cause them health problems, and quite another to insult the dog's intelligence and worth, as well as the people who love them. It is an attitude I have seen too in the show world by some people, and I can tell you nothing turns other people off quicker than that attitude, and when that happens you reach a point where very few listen to what you have to say.

I'm sure I have said more than enough now, but I wanted to say to wolfie not to feel bad about starting this particular thread because this is something that has been building up for awhile now. I very nearly broke down and said something the last time a condescending comment was made about a type of dog considered to have little value. As much as I hate to say anything that might be hurtful, sometimes it's the only way for someone to find out that what they are saying or how they are acting is offensive and maybe even hurtful to others.