JC- It is VERY frustrating, also Wiggles did have an accidental litter before from Piddle, but thankfully they are both fixed now, and I don't think she'd listen to me about the rottie or about the breeding.

I guess there are Semi-animal lovers who love and spoil their OWN pets...which is my mom

And then there are all-around animal lovers(like PTers) who love and care about ALL pets...

Thanks everyone, but I don't even think it's worth a try