Thanks for the comments about our dogs. I really appreciate the suggestions. But I was a bit alarmed when I read your response and just wanted to set the record straight. Odin is certainly not mistreated here. When I say that Odin gets yanked and yelled at I guess it sounds worse than it really is. He has one of those humane choke chains that are mostly fabric and a small section of chain, and when he pulls he gets a pop on the leash. And the yelling is not yelling, just a VERY FIRM NO! Odin gets lots of love and attention and good food and play, he is never screamed at or hit or anything. I think we are both just frustrated because what would work with another dog doesn't seem to work with him. And although my boyfriend isn't a professional trainer he has had dogs all his life and trained every one of them with good results. My collie was 2 when I adopted her and was a great dog but had a few obedience problems, and he had her in great shape in no time. She adores him and listens to him and shows her respect. Odin just seems to NOT GET IT. And my boyfriend was trying so hard and didn't even realize that he needed to change his tactics until I said "you know, I don't think it's working" As soon as I said that he knew I was right and immediately we began thinking about other training options, which we have begun. Just giving him more individual attention, using the toys and treats as positive reinforcers, etc. We don't know and cannot find out his history from the shelter, they won't give out any info about the dogs, it's a shame.

So enough said, suggestions are welcome but be completely assured that our pets are treated with lots of love.

And sorry to post this and my original comment as a reply to someone else's question, I wasn't thinking, I just saw the thing about the clicker and started typing. I will start my own topic next time!