Dogs will NOT go to the bathroom where they lie. That means after they learn they will be in their crate or a certain area they should stop relieving themselves there.
I have 4 dogs now myself and a cat. The newest adoptie isn't very well trained yet. I work during the day but allow the dogs to go in and out of the house as they please. I have a fenced yard. When I get home I give them a quick welcome and then go about my business. If I kept loving on them I would NEVER get anything done!!!
If I pass them in the hallway I will give them a good petting. I compensate where I need to. If I am working in the fenced area outside I include them. I try to coordinate my chores so I can spend the most time with them in that area. They respect that I can't pet them all the time. When I am ready to love or play with them they know it. Otherwise they can play with eachother.
Remember dogs don't know what time is. So just giving them 2 minutes of love will seem like forever to them!
You need to continue to do what you do and the dogs can take care of themselves. Ya need to co-exist together to get things to work out.
Ps. My dogs eat my cat's poop! The benefit is I don't have to clean the litter box as much!!!