He sounds like a breeder instead of a parent. That 12yr old isn't too old to have their rear end torn up. Sounds like that's what they both need. It's their own fault for letting them grow up that way. Now they're getting payback.
LOL @ Kay. One time, in 2nd grade, the kids wouldn't shut up for my teacher either. So I stood on my desk and yelled "SHUT UP!" as loud as I could. Got me a trip to the principal. Are you sure you're not my daughter somehow??