Thanks for replying to my message. I have read the "my dog takes me for a walk", and I will certainly try again some of the tips. I have already tried the walking backwards technique, but he just doesn't seem to notice what I'm doing, he just faces front and pulls against me and looks longingly at his surroundings, whichever way we walk, whether it's new or old. He just seems oblivious to whoever is on the other end of the lead. I agree with one comment that it could be dominence. But I will try somemore intensive training. As I said in my original message, my concern is getting his attention. Once I can get his attention I'm sure the rest will follow. As suggested by Carrie, we've had him on a long rope for a while now but this simply is not enough excersise for him, and really want to solve the problem. Also a guide dog trainer said that you can't teach heel on one lead and then on a rope of sorts say you can go wherever you like. Wherever we let him off he finds somewhere to go that he's not supposed to. Also, on a long rope, the less control I have when he charges off, coming back to he's a large dog, and pulling is his strong point. Once he gets a sent of a squirell or fox, he's off. When other dogs are around, he's great as he has something to draw his attention and stays and plays with their dogs, as he's very gentle and loves other dogs and people, luckily the ones we've met so far don't mind when he knocks them over! Again it comes back to recall and attention. When we are in the house he will sit, lay, stay, not perfect with stay everytime, but most as we can get his attention. When we are out on the lead, he won't even sit or look at us! Even when I stop and crouch infront of him, he turns his head, and if I hold his face and look into his eyes, he pulls away from me. It sounds like he hates us doesn't it! But in the house he loves attention and plays, he's really happy. Not knowing his past, I suppose this could be a result of how he was treated. The guide dog trainer told us that looking at his weight and that his pads were so soft he has never been out, so I suppose everything is so new to him. It took us two weeks before he would go in the garden, we had to go with him, and even then he wasn't comfortable. He loves cars and trys to get into every car he sees, and loves pushchairs. I don't expect miracles, but any ideas how to get his attention would be great. It's his safety I'm concerned with I'm afraid he will run in the road as he loves cars, or jump in the river and get sept away. Because of the floads here in England, the river is very fast running, so very worrying, and he adores water. Unfortunately every place we can go to walk him, has some interesting danger for him. So please just any tips on attention or recall, I'll try anything.