For the wolfers - try tossing a raw potato into the bowl on top of the food. I've had one dog that would eat the potato, too, but most will either try to nose it out of the way or work around it. Now, we're going WAY off the subject -- do the dogs that wolf their food eat their own feces? I'm doing an informal study on the connection.

For the Saint that won't respond to treats -- have you tried cat treats? They're more flavor intensive and smell intensive, so might motivate the guy. My sister shows and breeds Saints in Texas, I could check with her if you like. Email me at [email protected] and I'll get you in touch with her. Another treat my dogs would just about kill for is bananas. Last thought on treats -- I had one student that wouldn't work with treats for the longest time and then I asked his mom what he ate for regular food. Turned out the size of the treat was the problem, since he had never had anything larger than a small-bites kibble. I also had a Lhasa student that wouldn't respond to any of the above and we finally taught her to respond some to a squeaky ball larger than a tennis ball. I suspect this dog has not been taught how to play and has very little clue about squeakys or balls. Maybe the owner needs to teach the dog to play at home and see if that doesn't start to perk him up. Does he respond to light blowing in the face? Watch he doesn't eat your face off, but any response could be strongly praised (he may not accept really boisterous praise at first) and see if they can work from there. Good Luck.