WOW. Having gone from childless to childsoon in Zero to 4 months, I don't know what to say. But, I will come up with stuff as I type.

I really see the issue not one of "I don't like to hear you talk about children", but one of I am not really into what you talk about. Be it children, rats, snakes, pets in general. I have some friends that are NOT into weighttraining. Not. Not. Not. They don't give a poop in a diaper about what I do and do not lift. BUT, they do love me. They love my joy. My energy about life, and are interested in me. That means, they put up with (and make the appropriate comments about) things they don't really **care** about. That is what friends/family/people do. It is kind of what keeps life going on. We can't all care about everyone's everything. But, we can all be kind, respecting, and **gasp** polite, and indulge others in their child babble.

That is what I see as missing from the equation with ILR and WC. It doesn't seem so much as your position against children, but, your position against things that don't interest you. That **could** be considered selfish, or self-centered, and is **usually** a trait I see in younger people.

I can't imagine saying, "I hate children, or people that talk about their children". It seems kind of harsh to me. Of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion. But, what is it that you are truly opining? Your hate of children? That is just kind of sad.

I don't know if I feel these things because I am expecting? Am overly sensitive? I don't know. But, I want you both to know that what you are saying, or, maybe how you say it, does not paint you in a pleasant light, for most people. Consider another way to argue your position. Because if it is one you are truly serious about, your message gets lost in the format you use.